Apple Watch Event - Mon 09 Mar

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

One reason to play music on the watch is that when the watch and the phone are on the same network, they can be connected via WiFi and you don't need to have the phone with you. Right now, the phone is near by and if it rang or I get a text, I could go get it and answer/respond. but it's not close enough to listen to music with.

But if you find out that it drains your watch battery flat in a few hours, it's not likely that it's something you're going to carry on doing.

I see no reason for your claim that Apple are "lying". They say that it lasts 18h, and they tell you the conditions in which that is the case, just as Amazon tell you that the Kindle battery charge will last 2 months, if you read for half an hour a day. I recharge my Kindle about once every three weeks, because I read rather more than Amazon's assumption, but it doesn't invalidate the stated claim.

[Dylrob]

Originally Posted by jswinden

I cannot understand why the A W even needs to play music. The darn thing requires an iPhone to work, therefore you could just as easily play music on your iPhone. You would have to use a BT headset with the A W as no one would want a wire running to their wrist even if it had the speaker port, but you could use BT or wired headsets with the iPhone.

The point of it is so that you can go jogging without your phone. Or pretty much any other reason one might currently have to own an iPod in addition to their iPhone.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

But if you find out that it drains your watch battery flat in a few hours, it's not likely that it's something you're going to carry on doing.

I see no reason for your claim that Apple are "lying". They say that it lasts 18h, and they tell you the conditions in which that is the case, just as Amazon tell you that the Kindle battery charge will last 2 months, if you read for half an hour a day. I recharge my Kindle about once every three weeks, because I read rather more than Amazon's assumption, but it doesn't invalidate the stated claim.

I didn't say lying. I said exaggerating. I do think it's wrong to say 18 hours when it's clearly not even close.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I didn't say lying. I said exaggerating. I do think it's wrong to say 18 hours when it's clearly not even close.

Er, no, you said they were lying:

Apple is saying that the watch's battery will last 18 hours. But, that's a lie.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Er, no, you said they were lying:

Well, technically it is a lie. It doesn't last 18 hours. Can you show us how the numbers of real usage add up to 18 hours or even close?

[HarryT]

I don't have the remotest idea how the typical user will use this device in the real world and nor, I suspect, do you. Companies like Apple, though, spend enormous amounts of time and money doing usability research, and I strongly suspect that they do have a pretty good idea. But you say they are "lying" based on... what?

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by HarryT

No, it's not at all likely. Given that the iWatch requires an iPhone to work, why on Earth would anyone play music on their watch rather than the iPhone?

Presumably Apple think it's something people would do. Why else would they have included the facility to do so?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I don't have the remotest idea how the typical user will use this device in the real world and nor, I suspect, do you. Companies like Apple, though, spend enormous amounts of time and money doing usability research, and I strongly suspect that they do have a pretty good idea. But you say they are "lying" based on... what?

Based on 18 hours when you see usage time is not 18 hours (not even close).

[HarryT]

But people don't "use" a watch for 18h a day. It's on their wrist, and they look at it from time to time.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

But people don't "use" a watch for 18h a day. It's on their wrist, and they look at it from time to time.

But this is not just for keeping time. It's for doing lots of other things such as running apps, listening to music, reminders, calenders, messages, phone calls, health tracking, etc. So yes, I can easily see the battery running down sooner then a lot would like. Once it gets to a certain point, it becomes a watch for seeing the time until it's charged (or the battery really does run out).

[murg]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

But this is not just for keeping time. It's for doing lots of other things such as running apps, listening to music, reminders, calenders, messages, phone calls, health tracking, etc. So yes, I can easily see the battery running down sooner then a lot would like. Once it gets to a certain point, it becomes a watch for seeing the time until it's charged (or the battery really does run out).

And the battery will always run out of stored energy at the most inconvenient time...

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by murg

And the battery will always run out of stored energy at the most inconvenient time...

Like trying to buy something when you don't have the cash on you and your credit cards are at home.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

My data come from Techcrunch.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/09/app...achilles-heel/

That article sure is full of unsupported speculation. I would suggest that Techcrunch might be trying to generate a little controversy to drive up web page hits.

Frankly, until it people start using it in the real world, we won't know. I will say this. The Apple Watch isn't a replacement for the iPhone. I suspect that most people will not be listening to 6.5 hours of music on it, but rather will be listening to 6.5 hours of music on their iPhone. It seems to be designed to be used for a series of short transactions rather than continuous use.

[Barcey]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Like trying to buy something when you don't have the cash on you and your credit cards are at home.

See, that's worth the price of the watch right there. No more, "oh I forgot my wallet". Now it's, "oh no the battery died in my Apple Watch, can you pick up this one and I'll buy next time?"

[PeterT]

Simple solution for those who want long battery life from the Apple Watch.... Buy multiple of them. One on wrist, one on charger, one charged waiting to go.