Kobo Start Menu 07

[gong]

Now with flip1314 suggested settings, the opening KSM screen is perfect, no grey bar inside the bezel. However when I enter "scripts" menu for instance, the bottom inside the bezel is greyed.

EDIT: South orientation is as good as North's;
East is too low (grey area inside the bezel on the top + bezel not visible on the bottom);
West is too high (grey area inside the bezel on the bottom + bezel not visible on the bottom as well).

All comments are in regards to the opening screen.

[tshering]

Originally Posted by gong

Well it doesn't help I guess because the screenshot shows perfect full frame while on the device the screen is off-centered.

The image and the log file are meant to provide NiLuJe with some data so that he can analyse the situation. I am not sure whether he meant to make a screen shot with fbgrab of nickel. In that case, however, it would be much easier to do it via telnet.

[NiLuJe]

@gong: The screenshot is taken at the lowest level possible, so it snaps the whole screen, not just KSM's viewport. Since we're not inside nickel, we'd be unlikely to see any visible blackout like on an H2O, but it might still be helpful to take a look at. (Granted, as @tshering just pointed out, one taken from nickel would potentially be way more helpful in this instance, I kind of forgot abut that little detail ^^).

[gong]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@gong: The screenshot is taken at the lowest level possible, hence has no relation with KSM's geometry setting. Since we're not inside nickel, we'd be unlikely to see any visible blackout like on an H2O, but it might still be helpful to take a look at. (Granted, as @tshering just pointed out, one taken from nickel would potentially be more helpful in this instance, I kind of forgot abut that little detail ^^).

Oh, I was thinking a screenshot of actual High Level KSM screen was what we were after.

Here attached are the files I got under flip1314 settings.

[gong]

I got the bezel centered in E and W orientations but couldn't get rid of the grey bar.

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1024+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesE=1024x758+6+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1024+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1024x758-6+0

[NiLuJe]

@gong: Amended my previous comments, because of course we do see the effect of KSM's viewport shift on such a screenshot. Which explains why yours perfectly matches tshering's ^^. And doesn't really help us .

TL;DR: My bad, I should really have mentioned from the start that I was thinking of something taken from nickel ;/. Brainfart >_<'.

FWIW, KOReader currently uses something like

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1012+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1012+0+12
ksmGeometryValuesE=1012x758+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1012x758+12+0

(If my math/logic is correct, which, given my track record tonight, is debatable ^^).

But since I'm not quite sure 12px is actually the proper amount of hidden pixels, take that with a grain of salt. One potential other value would be 10 instead, so:

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1014+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1014+0+10
ksmGeometryValuesE=1014x758+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1014x758+10+0

[tshering]

Originally Posted by gong

I got the bezel centered in E and W orientations but couldn't get rid of the grey bar.

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1024+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesE=1024x758+6+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1024+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1024x758-6+0

Thank you for the images. I think I understand now what you are talking about. This grey bar is inside of the application, so it has nothing to do with our problem of placing the application inside of the visible part of the screen. Whenever there are more menu entries as can be displayed on one screen page, the list box provides room for a scroll bar, which I do not show since it is to small anyway.
Could you please test also NiLuJe's values? I know that you have already checked these values earlier. But now you have already chosen another font size and you are not distracted by the cut off of the entries and the grey bar on the right side.

[gong]

0.zip: NiLuJe settings before edit
1.zip: NiLuJe settings 1st set
2.zip: NiLuJe settings 2nd set

In 0.zip there are also pics of tools and scripts menu.

0 -> mixes portraits and landscapes in terms of good/broken: NW good / ES broken
1 & 2 -> best portraits up to now, however landscapes are all broken

Best landscape so far is W from 0.zip

[NiLuJe]

Hmm.

What about

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1012+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1012+0+12
ksmGeometryValuesE=1012x758+12+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1012x758+0+0

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1014+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1014+0+10
ksmGeometryValuesE=1014x758+10+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1014x758+0+0

[tshering]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

Hmm.

What about

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1012+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1012+0+12
ksmGeometryValuesE=1012x758+12+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1012x758+0+0

ksmGeometryValuesN=758x1014+0+0
ksmGeometryValuesS=758x1014+0+10
ksmGeometryValuesE=1014x758+10+0
ksmGeometryValuesW=1014x758+0+0

From the pictures it looks as this should work. But how can you explain this? Or maybe it is to late for me to have a clear thought.

Thank you Gong for again trying and the images!

[NiLuJe]

@tshering: While I get the N/S (portrait), I'm a bit puzzled by the E/W (landscape). But then again, I've been running on 4H sleep each day this week, and math/geometry isn't my forte ^^.

AFAIU, the Aura's bezel covers the *bottom* pixels when it's in portrait (and not upside down), unlike the H2O, where the dead zone is on top.

[tshering]

(Corrected version: ) Bonne nuit les petits!

[NiLuJe]

Yup, that's a neat idea, thanks ;p.

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OT: nuit is a feminine noun, so the adjective bon should inherit that gender . Speaking of genders, we usually put the feminine nouns first in that kind of constructs (f.g., as in Mesdemoiselles, messieurs when (relatively formally) addressing a room) .
On the other hand, I'd as a native speaker tend not to distribute the different genders over the noun ami in that instance, and when we do that, it's the masculine gender that wins. (Confused yet? ).

TL;DR: Bonne nuit mes amis! (A more idiomatic phrasing would even switch the possessive for a generic deictic -> Bonne nuit les amis!, but that's even more subtle to explain ^^).

Yes, French grammar is ghastly . (And that took a few edits and a quick check in a dictionary to double-check something, so, err, don't despair if you're learning French? ^^).

(Take my terminology with a grain of salt, I'm not used to speaking about French grammar in English ).

[gong]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

On the other hand, I'd as a native speaker tend not to distribute the different genders over the noun ami in that instance, and when we do that, it's the masculine gender that wins. (Confused yet? ).

Because it would be homophonic.
Yet written it makes some sense. Though not academic language this acknowledges on gender differentiation with a focus on feminine's, precisely because it's the last word of the sentence.

[gong]

It's hard to tell the difference between settings#3 and #4 but both are looking good.