Kindle Touch/PW1/PW2 5.0.x - 5.4.4.2 JailBreak. Plus FW 5.x USBNetwork.

[Ruskie_it]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

FWIW, this is so much easier on the command-line.

It is, to Linuxians. I guess Windows users would rather prefer to stay with the windows.
Other than that, I'd use cygwin in that case.

[knc1]

Originally Posted by Ruskie_it

It is, to Linuxians. I guess Windows users would rather prefer to stay with the windows.
Other than that, I'd use cygwin in that case.

So why are all of these Windows users trying to make a command line connection to a Linux (the Kindle) machine.

Shouldn't they all wait until Amazon starts shipping embedded Windows on the Kindle?

[Ruskie_it]

Originally Posted by knc1

So why are all of these Windows users trying to make a command line connection to a Linux (the Kindle) machine.

Because they haven't a "windows" alternative.

Shouldn't they all wait until Amazon starts shipping embedded Windows on the Kindle?

That's like avoiding using the bycicle until you can't afford a motorbike (not referring to their respective power, however). If you have alternatives, you go with what you like the most. If you haven't...
That said, cygwin (and gow) are useful alternatives for experienced (unix) people who are forced to use windows and try to cope as they can.

[Ruskie_it]

Please substitute motorbike with "rocket to Saturn". That represents better the probability of Amazon realizing that on the Kindle.

[eschwartz]

Well, since all these Windows users are, for better or for worse, using arcane command-line stuff rather than nice friendly point-and-click stuff, perhaps they can go one step further and access that via
START+R ==> cmd ==> ssh kindle
Since they are going to have to devolve to the command-line anyway.



And I would rather use Cygwin as well, to make use of .ssh/config rather than storing keys in the registry but I am looking for easy, here....

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Ruskie_it

It is, to Linuxians. I guess Windows users would rather prefer to stay with the windows.
Other than that, I'd use cygwin in that case.

Nah, why don't we just use virtual machines?

Cygwin is awesome... except for the occasional extreme slowness.

I notice that MSysGit has ssh too... and it generally starts faster...

[Ruskie_it]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Nah, why don't we just use virtual machines?

Oh no, that would be like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
Besides, vm are way slower, in principle, cause they have to emulate a processor. Cygwin or gow, they use unix command, but compiled natively for Windows environment.
Your previous point quite makes sense however: they're going to use the command line anyway, so they could just use cmd to launch "ssh kindle".
However, I think until they're "at home" they'd prefer sticking with their (Windows) way to do things. And using putty isn't that complex when you have setup your connection. You open putty, double click on your "Kindle" entry and you're in.
You can even make an icon that connects directly to it, if you like.
That's two different philosophies. I use both, but in my experience, those who knows sufficiently well only one of them, will tend to be VERY reluctant to change their status.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Ruskie_it

Oh no, that would be like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
Besides, vm are way slower, in principle, cause they have to emulate a processor. Cygwin or gow, they use unix command, but compiled natively for Windows environment.

Yeah, but the tradeoffs are pretty decent. A proper apt-get/yum/pacman, no having to setup weird stuff in ~/.inputrc so you can use the arrow keys properly, full access to EVERYTHING....

As long as your computer is good enough to run it well, and some are.

<randomrant>I have yet to figure out how to mount a USB drive with its partition label under Cygwin! </randomrant>

[Spartan117H3]

Originally Posted by knc1

The IP over Wifi will be that assigned by whatever on your network is doing DHCP service.
You can find what it is on the kindle from the info display -
either ;711 or ;411 in the search bar.
Hmm...
You might also be able to find it in the settings -> device info display.
- - - -
Plus, there are KUAL buttons for looking that information up.

Got it. If I wanted to set a static IP for my kindle, I'd have to do it through my router, correct? (If so, I'll probably just look it up every time/use USB instead)

[Spartan117H3]

Haha you guys are funny. It's interesting watching you guys debate over what I use to access this stuff. I actually previously learned super basic Linux command lines, which were: copy/paste, navigate through directories, make new files, delete files, making files read/writeable, and a bit about mount/unmounting, but that's basically it. I tried forcing myself to use ubuntu before, but either the functionality wasn't quite there for whatever reason for school purposes, or I didn't have enough time/anyone to teach me. I'm also a PC gamer, so there's that too.

Originally Posted by Ruskie_it

Koreader (if you ever want to read epub or pdf on Kindle)

pdf is natively supported on Kindle PW I believe. Do you use KOReader instead of the native reader most of the time? It seems almost the same (at first glance) in terms of features, except for the OCR feature which I'm not sure if Kindle PW has.

I tried extracting stardict but it has been giving me problems (unexpected end of archive, file is broken). The file is also 2.67GB which makes me think twice about keeping KOReader (I'd want the optional dictionary if I keep it). Is there any to have it point to Amazon's pre-loaded dictionaries or make it smaller?
Edit: I'm assuming 2.67GB is a bunch of languages, not just English.

What is the purpose of the "no framework" versions of the start filemanager/open document?

Originally Posted by eschwartz

There's only two, skipstone and midori. Both are old.

OTOH, I am typing these very words in skipstone.

screensavers hack if your Kindle is non-SO.

I tried Midori browser but it's not... perfectly ported to the PW. On opening, takes forever/you can click stuff "behind" the splash screen, and on closing, it opens the screen saver as well as the power menu (shows up after getting rid of the screensaver)

Would probably annoy me after a while, but it kind of feels more polished than skipstone and it has adblock/other extensions.

Is there any way to use the browser portrait mode and any way to replace the experimental browser button to link to skipstone (may be asking too much for this one)?

I take it back, screensaver mod is nice even with the magnetic cover; can still be briefly seen after opening it.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Spartan117H3

I tried Midori browser but it's not... perfectly ported to the PW. On opening, takes forever/you can click stuff "behind" the splash screen, and on closing, it opens the screen saver as well as the power menu (shows up after getting rid of the screensaver)

Would probably annoy me after a while, but it kind of feels more polished than skipstone and it has adblock/other extensions.

Well, it crashes my Kindle every time I try it, or runs like a snail. :/

How did you apply the skipstone patch, any way to use the browser portrait mode, and any way to replace the experimental browser button to link to skipstone (may be asking too much for this one)?

The patch is in case you wan to build skipstone yourself, just unpack the prebuilt ZIPped extension.

See this thread for inspiration in replacing Kindle toolbar icons with whatever random function you wish to use: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=178752

I take it back, screensaver mod is nice even with the magnetic cover; can still be briefly seen after opening it.

Yep.

[Spartan117H3]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Well, it crashes my Kindle every time I try it, or runs like a snail. :/

The patch is in case you wan to build skipstone yourself, just unpack the prebuilt ZIPped extension.

See this thread for inspiration in replacing Kindle toolbar icons with whatever random function you wish to use: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=178752

I thought it was ported specifically for the touch. On first open, you have to wait a while. After the initial run, it opens quite a bit faster.

Yeah I saw the meaning of the patch from a thread a few years old and edited my post accordingly.

Hmm, it says on the search bar, and for kindle touch, not PW. My search bar looks a bit different, and is a popup rather than a full top of the screen type thing so I'm not sure if it will work. I guess there's no way to change the settings menu and replace the experimental browser button with one of the aftermarket browsers.

Edit: Skipstone is designed to run in landscape mode, so no to that unless I want to go in and edit it.

[eschwartz]

It will indeed work on the PW as well, it is the same basic idea with a few extra buttons.

No, nobody that I know of has edited the menu dropdown.


Oh, trust me I have tried midori a variety of ways, the main problem is every time I get it to open it hangs endlessly on every action, taking ages. I have no idea WHY.

[Spartan117H3]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

It will indeed work on the PW as well, it is the same basic idea with a few extra buttons.

Oh, trust me I have tried midori a variety of ways, the main problem is every time I get it to open it hangs endlessly on every action, taking ages. I have no idea WHY.

I see, I wasn't sure if the file structure was different.

Oh.

Reading the wiki, it says I should make a backup, but it also says for the PW, it's all included with the rescue pack. But reading the rescue pack, it just allows access to SSH when crap hits the fan, there's no backup of what's recommended (partition 1 and 2), do I need to do that, or is there no point because you can't access "firmware flash"/ "usb downloader" mode?

[eschwartz]

I wouldn't bother with it. As long as you have access to diags mode through the Rescue Pack, you can simply flash the images provided by ixtab, at least in 99.999% of cases