Just ordered Kindle Voyage 2014

[soulfuldog]

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

Technically the first one wasn't faulty at all, it just didn't suit her preferences. Sounds like the second one was definitely faulty and the 3rd was apparently faulty. There have been very few if any "my new Kobo doesn't turn on" type of faulty complaints.

Sorry but that sounds very dismissive of someone's genuine problems when attempting to buy the H2O, and just wrong about the first one not being faulty. Considering the photo posted in the Kobo forum (here for anyone who is interested) clearly shows that screen on the H2O is quite noticeably darker at the top than it is at the bottom, then how is that technically or otherwise not faulty?

The yellowness of the screen is maybe down to preference, but if that was an image of a PW posted in the Kobo forum I'd bet there would be people slating it.

However, apart from some of the H2O's having a slightly strong yellow tinge to them, it is true that the H2O looks to be a winner from Kobo. It's taken the success and quality of the Aura HD to a new level, and aside from those who want to stay with an Amazon backed ereader, or don't want a bigger screen, or want the higher resolution, page turns of the Voyage, right now the H2O is the best ereader there is. It remains to be seen if the Voyage equals it (or betters it), and unfortunately for Josieb1, she's just been very unlucky with her three attempts to buy one.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by soulfuldog

Apart from some of the H2O's having a slightly strong yellow tinge to them, it is true that the H2O looks to be a winner from Kobo. It's taken the success and quality of the Aura HD to a new level, and aside from those who want to stay with an Amazon backed ereader, or don't want a bigger screen, or want the higher resolution, page turns of the Voyage, right now the H2O is the best ereader there is. Josieb1 has been unlucky with her three attempts to buy one.

I'm very happy indeed with my H2O. It is very unfortunate that Josie has had such a run of bad luck with them.

[Josieb1]

I think there must be at least two faulty batches of H20's, otherwise why would I get three faulty ones and a beedaddy from Germany has also had three faulty. It seems like the batches are going to certain areas. That makes more sense than just random faulty ones. Although I did by one locally from Argos and then had two online from Argos, maybe they serve the store and the online orders in my area from the same warehouse.

Who knows.

[Canuck_in_Japan]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

All of them were faulty, unless of course you believe a yellow screen with a darker bit at the top is normal?

I saw the pictures you posted and the tint of the screen looked perfectly fine to me. Far better than the blue flashlight color screen of the Kobo Glo that you just bought, imho. I don't recall any darker bits in the photo-I would have to look again.

[Canuck_in_Japan]

Originally Posted by soulfuldog

Sorry but that sounds very dismissive of someone's genuine problems when attempting to buy the H2O, and just wrong about the first one not being faulty. Considering the photo posted in the Kobo forum (here for anyone who is interested) clearly shows that screen on the H2O is quite noticeably darker at the top than it is at the bottom, then how is that technically or otherwise not faulty?

The yellowness of the screen is maybe down to preference, but if that was an image of a PW posted in the Kobo forum I'd bet there would be people slating it.

However, apart from some of the H2O's having a slightly strong yellow tinge to them, it is true that the H2O looks to be a winner from Kobo. It's taken the success and quality of the Aura HD to a new level, and aside from those who want to stay with an Amazon backed ereader, or don't want a bigger screen, or want the higher resolution, page turns of the Voyage, right now the H2O is the best ereader there is. It remains to be seen if the Voyage equals it (or betters it), and unfortunately for Josieb1, she's just been very unlucky with her three attempts to buy one.

Thank you for posting that link. I just looked at the picture again and the screens of all three of those readers look wonderful (and practically indistinguishable) to me.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

Thank you for posting that link. I just looked at the picture again and the screens of all three of those readers look wonderful (and practically indistinguishable) to me.

Well I'm glad you like the yellow one in the middle, pity it wasn't you paying for it

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

I saw the pictures you posted and the tint of the screen looked perfectly fine to me. Far better than the blue flashlight color screen of the Kobo Glo that you just bought, imho. I don't recall any darker bits in the photo-I would have to look again.

If the Glo I've ordered looks anything like the blue/white of both my current PW2 and Aura then I will be more than happy.

At the end of the day they don't advertise the H20 as being yellow, it's advertised as white and clear. And that is what I expect to get.

[DuckieTigger]

Concerning colors - what is wrong with colored leds where I can adjust a little bit? The Kindle app let you change to sepia or green backgrounds - why not the eink ones as well?

There clearly is different opinions what is better. Not only what is better, but what looks more like a paper book.

[Canuck_in_Japan]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Well I'm glad you like the yellow one in the middle, pity it wasn't you paying for it

You're certainly within your right to return it if you don't like it but including it in your "faulty" list is disingenuous in my opinion. I don't like red but I would never call a red shirt faulty.

[Josieb1]

Let's just agree to disagree shall we as your opinion on what's faulty is obviously not mine and anyway this is a Kindle thread not a kobo.

I've ordered the Kindle Voyage so and as the UK is two weeks behind on release dates I'm looking forward to what people think when they get it.

[Haesslich]

They're not even go for preorder yet in Canada, which is another reason to wait.

Here's waiting for reviews about the touch sensitive bezel and the screen, and how well they work in real life, versus very controlled conditions.

[pghaworth]

Originally Posted by robko

just saying that her experience isn't typical with the H2O.

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. My Voyage isn't here yet and I still plan to go to Best Buy just to take a peek.

Originally Posted by Haesslich

I'm glad I didn't let 5 pages of posts about the blotchy discolouration of the Kindle PW1 screen posted on this forum stop me from buying one after the PW first came out.

I wish I'd listened. I got three of those. I gave up and kept the last one, but it was a mistake. It's the worst Kindle I've ever owned. Besides the horrible screen, it does bezel page turns from both sides and the top. I have to mark my chapters and my progress carefully because I never know where it will leave me if I make the slightest move. I mostly read it without touching it now, in a stand, and keep my hands off it unless I have to hold it for whatever reason.

This PW1 and the missing SD card is why I started looking at Kobos this time around. I picked up one a few years ago and immediately returned it. Hated it. The only thing I liked about it was the SD card. Still missing it in my Kindle. That's why I'm going to check out the Aura HD and the H2O - little chance I will buy one, though.

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by pghaworth

That is my concern. I'm afraid that the way that I hold my Kindle will trigger them. If that's the case, I don't think I'll want to keep it just for the rest of the new goodies. I'll probably get a PW2 and wait for the next gen. My PW1 is the worst Kindle I've ever owned, but at least I can use it at night in my bedroom where it will get the least use.

From the way that the feature has been explained, you should be fine with the page turn sensor unless your natural way to hold the device is with your thumb twitching all the time because it is change in pressure it reacts too and not just pressure.

You might need to adjust the sensitivity of it, but I'd be surprised if many people actually switched it off for technical rather than personal reasons.

[pghaworth]

I hold my Kindles with my my thumb exactly over the area where the page turn button is. I have carpal tunnel and arthritis so I frequently readjust my position to ease the stress and/or pain. That's why I'm concerned. I understand about the pressure thing because my current Kindle - a PW1 - will change pages with the slightest shift of my thumb, even though it's not supposed to. I don't need another one that costs twice as much as a current gen PW. I'll just get a new PW2.

[induna]

The PW screen is touch sensitive. It will respond to any touch, no matter how soft or hard that is greater than its initial threshold, which is very, very low.

The new 'Page Press' sensors on the Voyage are pressure sensitive and adjustable. They will only respond to pressure that is above the configurable threshold. You should be able to rest your thumb on any part of the sensor for as long as you want without triggering a page turn until you press hard enough to trigger the sensor. At least that is the idea. How well it works in the field, no one yet knows.