Kobo Start Menu - Page 21

tshering · 07-04-2014, 06:21 AM

@wickyman

You are right, fmon is less invasive. I think there were some problems related to suspend that can be solved by using the start menu. However, I did not follow that discussion in detail . Maybe you better look into the koreader thread, or read the discussions on github. Informations are unfortunately dispersed all over the place.
You could simply try to start koreader via fmon. If it works for you it is ok. If it doesn't, try the start menu. There is not much risk you take. A factory reset will bring you back to a clean device.

Cyphox · 07-04-2014, 06:29 AM

i wonder if its possible to display a picture when the device is powered off instead of text?

i fiddled around with the standard img-tag, but all i got was a "image could not be displayed"-like symbol instead of the actual picture.

tshering · 07-04-2014, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyphox

i wonder if its possible to display a picture when the device is powered off instead of text?

i fiddled around with the standard img-tag, but all i got was a "image could not be displayed"-like symbol instead of the actual picture.

Currently are only png and bmp supported. For code example cf. this post. See under image viewer.

Cyphox · 07-04-2014, 10:24 AM

i see instructions on how to find the best width and heigth, but i see no code-example for displaying images using poweroff_info.html

i a total n00b when it comes to html, but when i open the modified html-file in windows it works, on the reader it doesnt. the poweroff.png is in the same folder as the poweroff_info.html

so i guess its just not supported? (yet?) or am i missing something??

Code:

<html>
<head>
  <title>kobo menu info</title>
  <style type="text/css">
   p {
    margin-top: 0.5em; }
  </style>
</head>

<body>
<img src="poweroff.png" height="1000" width="750"> 
</body>
</html>

Ken Maltby · 07-04-2014, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyphox

i see instructions on how to find the best width and heigth, but i see no code-example for displaying images using poweroff_info.html

i a total n00b when it comes to html, but when i open the modified html-file in windows it works, on the reader it doesnt. the poweroff.png is in the same folder as the poweroff_info.html

so i guess its just not supported? (yet?) or am i missing something??

Code:

<html>
<head>
  <title>kobo menu info</title>
  <style type="text/css">
   p {
    margin-top: 0.5em; }
  </style>
</head>

<body>
<img src="poweroff.png" height="1000" width="750"> 
</body>
</html>

Perhaps: <style type="image/png">

Here but that would only be part of the effort for use in the kbterminal, I am guessing here.

Luck;
Ken

Ken Maltby · 07-04-2014, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tshering

@wickyman

You are right, fmon is less invasive. I think there were some problems related to suspend that can be solved by using the start menu. However, I did not follow that discussion in detail . Maybe you better look into the koreader thread, or read the discussions on github. Informations are unfortunately dispersed all over the place.
You could simply try to start koreader via fmon. If it works for you it is ok. If it doesn't, try the start menu. There is not much risk you take. A factory reset will bring you back to a clean device.

This describes how the Koreader can get into a looping situation that prevents a proper install. Where most users seem to run into trouble is with the requirement to have the launching image processed by the Kobo software and the database properly updated -Before connecting to the PC again to place the KoboRoot.tgz file into the .kobo directory.

You can avoid the issue for a Koreader install by using The Kobo Start Menu and not messing with the koreader.png at all. It is not needed, unless you want to launch it within Nickel, using fmon.

Luck;
Ken

tshering · 07-04-2014, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyphox

i a total n00b when it comes to html, but when i open the modified html-file in windows it works, on the reader it doesnt. the poweroff.png is in the same folder as the poweroff_info.html

so i guess its just not supported? (yet?) or am i missing something??

The application that handles the poweroff_info.html cannot resolve the relative path information (as your web browser does). One therefore has to give the full path. This works on my Kobo Touch:

Code:

<html>
<body>
<img src="/mnt/onboard/.kobo/kbmenu/images/test01.png" width="566">
</body>
</html>

In your case you might try something like the following:

Code:

<img src="/mnt/onboard/.kobo/kbmenu/txt/poweroff.png"  width="726">

WS64 · 07-04-2014, 03:44 PM

New Kobo is on its way, where can I find the newest version of Start Menu? Do I need to install one version and then some updates or is there somewhere "the latest" version?

Ken Maltby · 07-04-2014, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tshering

The application that handles the poweroff_info.html cannot resolve the relative path information (as your web browser does). One therefore has to give the full path. This works on my Kobo Touch:

Code:

<html>
<body>
<img src="/mnt/onboard/.kobo/kbmenu/images/test01.png" width="566">
</body>
</html>

In your case you might try something like the following:

Code:

<img src="/mnt/onboard/.kobo/kbmenu/txt/poweroff.png"  width="726">

Right, it is working that way for me as well. I also got it working (now that I told it where to find the .png) using "image/png" for the style type, and no width or other argument and have the image full screen.

Now to get on Gimp2 and see what kind of a poster I can make. ( The image display is quite good, but I had better find something that is not X rated for my powered off image.)

Luck;
Ken

tshering · 07-04-2014, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS64

New Kobo is on its way, where can I find the newest version of Start Menu? Do I need to install one version and then some updates or is there somewhere "the latest" version?

Sorry, there is no package containing the latest version. Install KBStartMenu_04.zip and KBStartMenu_04_update01a.zip one after the other.

If you have a device that is prone to freezing copy the content of preventfreeze.zip (find it here https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=277) to your device.

Spoiler:

tshering · 07-04-2014, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Maltby

Right, it is working that way for me as well. I also got it working (now that I told it where to find the .png) using "image/png" for the style type, and no width or other argument and have the image full screen.

I think this is only working for you since your image has already the appropriate size.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Maltby

( The image display is quite good, but I had better find something that is not X rated for my powered off image.)

Be prepared that the display might appear to loose its sharpness.

WS64 · 07-04-2014, 06:14 PM

Thanks for the recapitulation!

Ken Maltby · 07-04-2014, 06:17 PM

This is my first quick attempt:
Right it was created at the AuraHD's image size.

This one looks like there is no loss of sharpness, but for photos it is often a different manner.

Luck;
Ken

tshering · 07-04-2014, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Maltby

This is my first quick attempt:
Right it was created at the AuraHD's image size.

This one looks like there is no loss of sharpness, but for photos it is often a different manner.

Luck;
Ken

Since kbmessage (the executable that handles the image) unfortunately puts a frame around the image, you should see the scroll bars. Or does your <style type="image/png"> prevent this from happening? (Maybe I did something wrong when I tested the style definition.)

Ken Maltby · 07-04-2014, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tshering

Since kbmessage (the executable that handles the image) unfortunately puts a frame around the image, you should see the scroll bars. Or does your <style type="image/png"> prevent this from happening? (Maybe I did something wrong when I tested it.)

Right there is a scroll bar at the bottom and on the left side. They are very narrow, as is the frame. I did not see them until you pointed them out.

Luck;
Ken

07-04-2014, 06:21 AM	#301
tshering Wizard Posts: 3,489 Karma: 2914715 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: kobo touch	@wickyman You are right, fmon is less invasive. I think there were some problems related to suspend that can be solved by using the start menu. However, I did not follow that discussion in detail . Maybe you better look into the koreader thread, or read the discussions on github. Informations are unfortunately dispersed all over the place. You could simply try to start koreader via fmon. If it works for you it is ok. If it doesn't, try the start menu. There is not much risk you take. A factory reset will bring you back to a clean device. Last edited by tshering; 07-04-2014 at 06:24 AM.

07-04-2014, 10:24 AM	#304
Cyphox Connoisseur Posts: 50 Karma: 16356 Join Date: Apr 2013 Device: Kindle 4 NT	i see instructions on how to find the best width and heigth, but i see no code-example for displaying images using poweroff_info.html i a total n00b when it comes to html, but when i open the modified html-file in windows it works, on the reader it doesnt. the poweroff.png is in the same folder as the poweroff_info.html so i guess its just not supported? (yet?) or am i missing something?? Code: <html> <head> <title>kobo menu info</title> <style type="text/css"> p { margin-top: 0.5em; } </style> </head> <body> <img src="poweroff.png" height="1000" width="750"> </body> </html>

07-04-2014, 06:17 PM	#313
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,466 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	This is my first quick attempt: Right it was created at the AuraHD's image size. This one looks like there is no loss of sharpness, but for photos it is often a different manner. Luck; Ken Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Ken Maltby; 07-04-2014 at 06:27 PM.

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07-04-2014, 06:29 AM	#302
Cyphox Connoisseur Posts: 50 Karma: 16356 Join Date: Apr 2013 Device: Kindle 4 NT	i wonder if its possible to display a picture when the device is powered off instead of text? i fiddled around with the standard img-tag, but all i got was a "image could not be displayed"-like symbol instead of the actual picture.

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WS64 ♫ Posts: 661 Karma: 506380 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kobo Aura / PB Lux 2 / Bookeen Frontlight / Kobo Mini / Nook Color	Thanks for the recapitulation!