|  03-25-2014, 11:40 AM | #46 | |
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|  03-25-2014, 11:57 AM | #47 | 
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			You'll know if it's too hot because it will become unstable. At worst it might shut itself down. Don't worry, it won't blow up. Do you live in a nice,warm climate? If so, that might impact it and I also will have no sympathy for you    | 
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|  03-25-2014, 12:10 PM | #48 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | Quote: 
  Though the snow is beginning to vanish for the year and in a couple of months I'll probably be complaining about how hot it is. | |
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|  03-25-2014, 10:12 PM | #49 | 
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			I got my Dell Venue 8 pro in the mail tonight.  I can't speak to the full range of heat, but the area that heats up is in the lower right hand side (in portrait), which is probably the location of the chipset but it could be battery related heat (common when power is quickly charged or quickly discharged) too.   While playing a hulu video, it gets warm to the touch there. Forty minutes in, it's not actually hot, just warm. Far cooler than my first gen atom netbook (which had a fan while this is fanless) would have gotten also watching hulu. I'll have to get back to you on the temp during word processing and the like if you care about that, but I suspect it'll be near room temp. Bay Trail is a lot hardier than previous atom generations, not just compared to prior generations, but compared to the gap between intel's high end and low end in previous gens. I might not recommend Skyrim, but from what I've read, it is more suitable for gaming than anything in this class has been before. Last edited by Marseille; 03-27-2014 at 01:04 AM. Reason: added image | 
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|  03-28-2014, 12:14 PM | #50 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | Quote: 
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|  03-28-2014, 02:05 PM | #51 | 
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			My 64 GB tab had somewhere near 36 GB free to start with.  About 6.5GB IIRC is taken up for system partitions relating to recovery.  And it has an micro sd slot.  Despite the lower capacities, I'd never trade a solid state boot drive for any amount of space in most contexts. I built my PC in 2009 or so using parts that were midrange a year earlier. A year or so ago, I replaced the boot drive with an SSD. The difference in responsiveness is extraordinary. For a general computing environment, there's no better upgrade. | 
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|  03-29-2014, 08:23 AM | #52 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 3,418 Karma: 35207650 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iPad | Quote: 
 Fully agree. Also what ever drive you use for your swap file, that you want to be SSD also. | |
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|  03-29-2014, 10:12 AM | #53 | 
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			I think I'd much rather have RAM based storage rather than a dedicated hard-drive. I imagine it uses less power and produces less heat (and therefore fan activity). So is it possible to replace an existing hard-drive with RAM storage?
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|  03-29-2014, 10:13 AM | #54 | 
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|  03-29-2014, 11:19 AM | #55 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 3,418 Karma: 35207650 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iPad | Quote: 
 SSD is pretty close to RAM based storage. In fact, if you have say 8gb of ram, and consistently use 16gb of swap - with an SSD your far less likely with normal tasks to notice it. With a traditional HD your machine will drag heavily under those conditions. My work laptop is maxed with 16gb of RAM already and I have it backed by a 256gb SSD. I consistently use 64gb of RAM or more thanks to swap space and it runs without hiccups. A good modern SSD with a modern OS will do wonders.   | |
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|  03-29-2014, 01:42 PM | #56 | 
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			So how do you use the SSD? Do you install an OS on it and make it the boot device? If so, what OS are you running on it? It seems they have a limited number of write operations in their lifetime and are best for "passive" storage.
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|  03-29-2014, 01:56 PM | #57 | 
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			It's a drive, like any other. Yes, you boot from it.
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|  03-29-2014, 01:59 PM | #58 | 
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			It's easy to boot from a flash drive or other such. You just change your bios setting in the setup. At least that's how it works in Windows. I don't know how it's done in android or mac.
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|  03-29-2014, 02:39 PM | #59 | 
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			They have a limited life just like platter hard drives.  At this stage, I think the average SSD lasts longer than the average HDD.  Probably doubly true for mobile devices that are moved around a lot.
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|  03-29-2014, 06:13 PM | #60 | 
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			From what I understand they last longer because there are no moving parts unlike with a HDD.
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