Paperwhite Second Gen: First Impressions - Page 114

Atunah · 10-24-2013, 12:10 PM

Interesting about the snap parts on the PW and no glue. My PW1, the one I kept after 2 replacements always had the frame stick up. Not towards the screen, but at the edge right where it meets that rubbery frame thingy. Its mostly on the top all across more pronounced on the top right and some on the right side down from the top. When slightly pressed it moves down flat, but springs right back up. Not sure if I am explaining this right. I always assumed there wasn't enough glue underneath so its elevated on the edge.

But I can say that it has never gotten worse, it stayed exactly the same for a year now. And this is with putting it in and out of the original amazon cover which is a bit of a pain its so tight. I have read it without any cover for like 3 months and also used a cover with corner elastics. None of this had any effect on that frame.

My K3 has a squeaky back and a crack and it still works fine after how many years now? I got it when it first came out.

mylinh · 10-24-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SubElement

Got my PW2 in Australia today. I opened the box and I was ecstatic. The screen was leaps and bounds better than the PW1. Thought I got a perfect unit.

Then I saw the pin holes... *sigh*

Getting it replaced. Sad to see the replacement system has been made a little more complicated. The standard Amazon support used to get send you a new one, and get the old one back. Now it has to go through the Kindle replacement team. I hope that means better quality control? Who knows.

Hi SubElement and other members,

My first Kindle Paperwhite 2 is in perfect condition and I gave it to my niece as a birthday gift.

I received my second one for 5 minutes ago in Melbourne and I saw three pin holes. I contacted the CS and now they are sending me a new one. Yay1

Synamon · 10-24-2013, 11:43 PM

My Paperwhite arrived today. Looks great to me. There is a small bright patch (light leak) in the bottom right corner that is only noticeable at medium light settings and I'll probably stop noticing it after a few days.

The only issue I'm having is that the font setting I used on my Kindle Keyboard falls between two fonts on the Paperwhite, so I'll have to adapt and either use a smaller or larger font. With the increased contrast I can probably get away with the smaller font.

BeeTee-Ess · 10-25-2013, 03:14 AM

I received two PW2s a week ago, and they were both perfect: screen, bezel, the back, everything.

I already own a K3 and several K4s, and I am amazed at how white the PW2 screens are; and there are no shadows, colour casts or pinholes anywhere.

Just lucky, I guess.

Josieb1 · 10-25-2013, 03:46 AM

I could do with the vocabulary builder so still on the fence about trying a third time but I'm going to wait and see what updates Amazon provide for the PW1 first. On the UK site under Kindle Paperwhite (we only have one listing under software updates for the Paperwhite) it says 'Coming Soon'

Blossom · 10-25-2013, 04:16 AM

I'm playing the replacement game and I didn't buy a PW2. *sigh* My HDX brightness is buggy so they are sending another one. So you see it's just not the PW2 that have some issues.

I'm still on the fence one minute I think maybe then I think why do I need it when my PW1 has not let me down.

If I bought a PW2 I would have to embed my fonts and that makes more work. I am learning KF8 books are PITA! I love old mobi best!

Josieb1 · 10-25-2013, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blossom

I'm playing the replacement game and I didn't buy a PW2. *sigh* My HDX brightness is buggy so they are sending another one. So you see it's just not the PW2 that have some issues.

I'm still on the fence one minute I think maybe then I think why do I need it when my PW1 has not let me down.

If I bought a PW2 I would have to embed my fonts and that makes more work. I am learning KF8 books are PITA! I love old mobi best!

I know, the more I read on my PW1 the more I just want the software upgrades only.

Blossom · 10-25-2013, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I know, the more I read on my PW1 the more I just want the software upgrades only.

Not if I lose my font I don't want the upgrades.

I never knew switching to the new format would take so much tweaking and work. Ugh! I am buried in Style Sheets. It seems alot of publishers don't know how to make font sizes ereader friendly. It's either too big or too small or the line height wont change.

I do a convert to old mobi and the problems are immediately solved but doing old mobi to KF8 works okay but the cover refuses to show.

Sooo much work!

Josieb1 · 10-25-2013, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

Not if I lose my font I don't want the upgrades.

I never knew switching to the new format would take so much tweaking and work. Ugh! I am buried in Style Sheets. It seems alot of publishers don't know how to make font sizes ereader friendly. It's either too big or too small or the line height wont change.

I do a convert to old mobi and the problems are immediately solved but doing old mobi to KF8 works okay but the cover refuses to show.

Sooo much work!

I can live with Helvectia if I have to. It quite similar to what I use now but I will try embedding fonts and side loading if I have to, it worked on my test ebook, but yes it is a pain.

sirmaru · 10-25-2013, 10:10 AM

I use the stock Helvetica font on my PW 2012, PW 2013, HD 2012 and HDX 2013. I find it dark and thick enough to read clearly.

Frankly, I don't understand why so many folks here are even using Calibre. I don't use it at all and my Amazon eBooks work just fine. Its possible that Calibre is causing its own problems and wasting lots and lots of time for too many users.

Snorkledorf · 10-25-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Helgetus

But why is the printed "Kindle" darker on the right frame than on the left frame? It looks the same onmy PW1 and PW1. Maybe the difference is only due to the camera setting?

Yeah, it was just uneven ambient lighting in the room; just laziness on my part. But still good enough to show how the screens look side by side. Both of the logos look pretty much the same.

Katsunami · 10-25-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sirmaru

Frankly, I don't understand why so many folks here are even using Calibre.

As I and others have told you before: because not everybody buys everything from Amazon all the time, and even if they did, they're not happy with the fonts or layout of the books.

You know, you're starting to sound like the Amazon-version of an Apple-fanatic.

Josieb1 · 10-25-2013, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirmaru

I use the stock Helvetica font on my PW 2012, PW 2013, HD 2012 and HDX 2013. I find it dark and thick enough to read clearly.

Frankly, I don't understand why so many folks here are even using Calibre. I don't use it at all and my Amazon eBooks work just fine. Its possible that Calibre is causing its own problems and wasting lots and lots of time for too many users.

I use Calibre as a library system, I don't buy Amazon books and have over 4500 books in Calibre. I can quite happily use my Paperwhte without Amazon, but I couldn't use it all all without Calibre. I wouldn't even be reading on an ereader if not for Calibre.

HarryT · 10-25-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I use Calibre as a library system, I don't buy Amazon books and have over 4500 books in Calibre. I can quite happily use my Paperwhte without Amazon, but I couldn't use it all all without Calibre. I wouldn't even be reading on an ereader if not for Calibre.

I buy the majority of my books from Amazon, but every book on my Kindle is loaded via Calibre. Like you, I'd be lost without it.

sirmaru · 10-25-2013, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I buy the majority of my books from Amazon, but every book on my Kindle is loaded via Calibre. Like you, I'd be lost without it.

What advantages do you get with Amazon eBooks by processing them through Calibre that are not available without using Calibre?

I only buy my eBooks from Amazon and cannot understand why they may need Calibre processing.

I use the vanilla Helvetica font and couldn't imagine using anything better.

10-25-2013, 03:46 AM	#1700
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,082 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra Colour, Libra 2	I could do with the vocabulary builder so still on the fence about trying a third time but I'm going to wait and see what updates Amazon provide for the PW1 first. On the UK site under Kindle Paperwhite (we only have one listing under software updates for the Paperwhite) it says 'Coming Soon' Last edited by Josieb1; 10-25-2013 at 05:58 AM.

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10-24-2013, 12:10 PM	#1696
Atunah Wizard Posts: 1,817 Karma: 23400001 Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Device: K1/K3/BasicK Voyage/Oasis1/Oasis3	Interesting about the snap parts on the PW and no glue. My PW1, the one I kept after 2 replacements always had the frame stick up. Not towards the screen, but at the edge right where it meets that rubbery frame thingy. Its mostly on the top all across more pronounced on the top right and some on the right side down from the top. When slightly pressed it moves down flat, but springs right back up. Not sure if I am explaining this right. I always assumed there wasn't enough glue underneath so its elevated on the edge. But I can say that it has never gotten worse, it stayed exactly the same for a year now. And this is with putting it in and out of the original amazon cover which is a bit of a pain its so tight. I have read it without any cover for like 3 months and also used a cover with corner elastics. None of this had any effect on that frame. My K3 has a squeaky back and a crack and it still works fine after how many years now? I got it when it first came out.

10-24-2013, 11:43 PM	#1698
Synamon Lunatic Posts: 1,691 Karma: 4386372 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Land of the Loonie Device: Kindle Paperwhite and Keyboard, Kobo Aura, iPad mini, iPod Touch	My Paperwhite arrived today. Looks great to me. There is a small bright patch (light leak) in the bottom right corner that is only noticeable at medium light settings and I'll probably stop noticing it after a few days. The only issue I'm having is that the font setting I used on my Kindle Keyboard falls between two fonts on the Paperwhite, so I'll have to adapt and either use a smaller or larger font. With the increased contrast I can probably get away with the smaller font.

10-25-2013, 03:14 AM	#1699
BeeTee-Ess Addict Posts: 306 Karma: 679580 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Device: K3, K4NT, KPW2, Voyage, iP4, iP6, iPad Mini, HP TouchPad, Kobo Mini	I received two PW2s a week ago, and they were both perfect: screen, bezel, the back, everything. I already own a K3 and several K4s, and I am amazed at how white the PW2 screens are; and there are no shadows, colour casts or pinholes anywhere. Just lucky, I guess.

10-25-2013, 04:16 AM	#1701
Blossom Treasure Seeker Posts: 18,708 Karma: 26026435 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices	I'm playing the replacement game and I didn't buy a PW2. sigh My HDX brightness is buggy so they are sending another one. So you see it's just not the PW2 that have some issues. I'm still on the fence one minute I think maybe then I think why do I need it when my PW1 has not let me down. If I bought a PW2 I would have to embed my fonts and that makes more work. I am learning KF8 books are PITA! I love old mobi best!

10-25-2013, 10:10 AM	#1705
sirmaru Wizard Posts: 2,426 Karma: 6561538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014	I use the stock Helvetica font on my PW 2012, PW 2013, HD 2012 and HDX 2013. I find it dark and thick enough to read clearly. Frankly, I don't understand why so many folks here are even using Calibre. I don't use it at all and my Amazon eBooks work just fine. Its possible that Calibre is causing its own problems and wasting lots and lots of time for too many users.