Sony's unannounced Reader PRS-T3 leaks out at the FCC

[hwlester]

Originally Posted by Rizla

I've read of a lot of rooted T1s that have become irretrievably unstable after rooting. I presume the T2 has the same problem. I sold my T1 (unrooted) and bought a Nook STR which almost unbrickable. Root the T1/T2 at your own risk.

I'm doubtful (though hopeful) that any future Sony device will be worth rooting.

One of the reasons I've never rooted my T1. It's my primary reader and I need it to be stable. I installed the alternate home screen and have looked at the possibility of sideloading an app or two without rooting, but haven't done so yet.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by trocchietto

I can root, but I do not do, because my iphone 5 is perfect to play chesson the sun.

I don't get it.
The rooted T2 is needed so you can have Cool Reader 3 on it, GoldenDict dictionary and Sony indexing switched off.
Or, if you prefer Sony reader - so that you can have automatic shelves, etc.
Not for some games. I never tried any game on T2.

Originally Posted by trocchietto

I think (sorry for the lovely critic I am doing) we should speak about T2 comprehensive of guarantee, not what can happen with a root.

I bought T2 (four of them, actually) ONLY because it can be rooted and only AFTER it was successfully rooted. I would never have bought it otherwise.
The same with T1 too.
For me - T2 is the best reader in the world BECAUSE it is rooted.
Otherwise it is not worth buying at all. Better i62 then.

If you have a rootable T2 and do not root it - you are losing the best reader in the world. The most wonderful book reading experience. Stuck with what Sony thinks you should suffer when reading books.

Originally Posted by trocchietto

Really few T2 have been rooted in comparison with the sold units (at least I am supposing )

I am supposing quite the opposite. I know several people who bought T2s,
and all of them bought T2 because they can be rooted. All of them rooted their T2s. I personally know nobody who has not rooted his/her T2.
And what I was hearing, that is the main selling point for T2 - that you can root it and have Cool Reader or what you want on it for reading comfortably.

I don't understand why Sony does not want to sell their readers.
The only explanation - that they are selling Russian model to the Russian market for twice the price of the US model.
But the Russian market is full of various e-readers and Russians are not buying T2s for that outrageous price anyway, they are only buying T2s from USA that can be rooted or none at all (I assume).

Originally Posted by trocchietto

please consider also different is the philosophy of amazon,
with hardware prices really accesible and on the edge of the technology.

Over the edge as far as I am concerned.
I was never a fan of Kindle because of its lack of an SD card and the lack of support for the most popular book formats, but PaperWhite went over the top: no buttons and two unnecessary layers on top: capacitive and light distributing. And to top all this - no possibility to switch off the light. I cannot understand why even a single person in the world would buy that junk. No light off switch?!!! Unless at its minimal position it is really fully off?
Does it glow at all in total darkness in the minimal position?

Originally Posted by trocchietto

all in all, mini ipad retina is around the corner, samsung, sony xperia 5 inches do the same, to save the niche ereader and justify the reader to carry on it, need to offer nice features like battery, color, android.

Why do you want color, for reading fiction books color is not needed.
It is impossible to make color e-ink as good for black and white as one without color.
Use your Samsung retina iPad for color.
Or better: use a 30" monitor and a large plasma TV for color.
But black-and-white e-ink readers for books.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by hwlester

One of the reasons I've never rooted my T1. It's my primary reader and I need it to be stable. I installed the alternate home screen and have looked at the possibility of sideloading an app or two without rooting, but haven't done so yet.

Rooted T1 and rooted T2 are both rock solid stable.
I never had to use the reset hole. I never had any error messages, even.
And they are able to handle a 32 GB card full of books easily.
Try this without rooting.
Try to set 1 cm wide margins for landscape orientation without rooting. You will have to do it inside each book separately.

Why do you even buy T1 or T2 if you don't root them? The whole point is to root them.
But use the best - rupor's AMR, not some other alternative - those might be unstable.

Yes, Nook is very good too. But T2 has a better screen, a better form factor, Nook is too rubbery, not so pleasant to hold, etc.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by taming

You missed the part 2--the one about only having books I intend to actually read and my inability to read 27,000 books even if they were to look good to me.

I have never understood the need/desire to stuff a reader with books just because they are free. It seems to me like going to an all you can eat buffet and trying to pile my place at the table with everything they have regardless of whether I actually care to eat 150 buns or just one.

I do not stuff my reader with all available books.
The point is to be able to choose what next book to read without the need to do so on the computer.
You know - to browse before buying sort of thing. You can open many books and begin reading until you find one you really want to read.
I guess, you can do this on your computer too, but I like to be able to do this on e-reader.

And besides, I keep my favorite authors on the e-reader too. All their books.

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by parkher

I don't get it.
The rooted T2 is needed so you can have Cool Reader 3 on it, GoldenDict dictionary and Sony indexing switched off.
Or, if you prefer Sony reader - so that you can have automatic shelves, etc.
Not for some games. I never tried any game on T2.



I bought T2 (four of them, actually) ONLY because it can be rooted and only AFTER it was successfully rooted. I would never have bought it otherwise.
The same with T1 too.
For me - T2 is the best reader in the world BECAUSE it is rooted.
Otherwise it is not worth buying at all. Better i62 then.

If you have a rootable T2 and do not root it - you are losing the best reader in the world. The most wonderful book reading experience. Stuck with what Sony thinks you should suffer when reading books.



I am supposing quite the opposite. I know several people who bought T2s,
and all of them bought T2 because they can be rooted. All of them rooted their T2s. I personally know nobody who has not rooted his/her T2.
And what I was hearing, that is the main selling point for T2 - that you can root it and have Cool Reader or what you want on it for reading comfortably.

I don't understand why Sony does not want to sell their readers.
The only explanation - that they are selling Russian model to the Russian market for twice the price of the US model.
But the Russian market is full of various e-readers and Russians are not buying T2s for that outrageous price anyway, they are only buying T2s from USA that can be rooted or none at all (I assume).



Over the edge as far as I am concerned.
I was never a fan of Kindle because of its lack of an SD card and the lack of support for the most popular book formats, but PaperWhite went over the top: no buttons and two unnecessary layers on top: capacitive and light distributing. And to top all this - no possibility to switch off the light. I cannot understand how even a single person in the world can buy that junk. No light off switch?!!! Unless at its minimal position it is really fully off?
Does it glow at all in total darkness in the minimal position?



Why do you want color, for reading fiction books color is not needed.
It is impossible to make color e-ink as good for black and white as one without color.
Use your Samsung retina iPad for color.
Or better: use a 30" monitor and a large plasma TV for color.
But black-and-white e-ink readers for books.

So what have you got against color? Maybe it is not necessary, I don't feel the need for it, but if it is affordable and takes nothing away from the basic black and white display, why not? You say it is not possible to make color eink as good for black and white, which is possibly true at the moment or possibly just your opinion, but why should other people not have the choice?

Some people read comics and some even read non fiction on their ereaders.

How would it hurt anyone in any way if they could read in color if they want to?

Also in my world, no one roots their T2's or T1's and have no interest whatsoever in coolreader even on their tablets. They seem to favour Aldiko. We must live in different universes entirely Of course many of my friends are IT professionals who feel they spend too much time already dealing with tech problems and just want their toys to work without any jumping through hoops.

Helen

[CWatkinsNash]

Originally Posted by parkher

Why do you even buy T1 or T2 if you don't root them? The whole point is to root them.

For you, perhaps, but not for everyone. I bought my T1 knowing it was rootable, but after using it for a week or so I saw no reason to root it - it does exactly what I need / want just the way it is. Calibre manages the collections on it just fine, and it's been stable from day one.

[DuskyRose]

Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

For you, perhaps, but not for everyone. I bought my T1 knowing it was rootable, but after using it for a week or so I saw no reason to root it - it does exactly what I need / want just the way it is. Calibre manages the collections on it just fine, and it's been stable from day one.

I have both the T1 and the T2. I rooted each to see what the big deal was, and found it was a lot of work for no real return for me.

So I unrooted them and have been happy with them as is as long as I don't overload them. Otherwise, they work find just as they are.

And I wasn't very impressed with CoolReader on the hacked Sony's. For the Tablets it's either Marvin or Aldiko for me.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

So what have you got against color? Maybe it is not necessary, I don't feel the need for it, but if it is affordable and takes nothing away from the basic black and white display, why not? You say it is not possible to make color eink as good for black and white, which is possibly true at the moment or possibly just your opinion, but why should other people not have the choice?

Some people read comics and some even read non fiction on their ereaders.

How would it hurt anyone in any way if they could read in color if they want to?

Also in my world, no one roots their T2's or T1's and have no interest whatsoever in coolreader even on their tablets. They seem to favour Aldiko. We must live in different universes entirely Of course many of my friends are IT professionals who feel they spend too much time already dealing with tech problems and just want their toys to work without any jumping through hoops.

Helen

Look, the person to whom I was replying clearly has various iDevices with color already - with much better color than e-ink will ever have.

For other people - sure, you may buy Ectaco if you want and enjoy its pale barely visible colors and nicely colored out of focus pale black and white text.
But please don't make Sony to switch to color!

And when you say
"...have no interest whatsoever in coolreader even on their tablets"
that tells me that we really are from different worlds.

even on their tablets? - that is a shocking statement to me.

I would never ever consider a tablet as suitable for reading books - why would anybody need a Cool Reader on a tablet?
For Cool Reader you buy T2 and root it. That how it is done.

In my opinion, iPad is good for one thing only: as a gift.
For reading books you should use an e-ink reader
For watching movies you should use a large plasma TV. Or even larger projector for 3D.
For listening music use high quality tube amplifiers with golden wires and with tubes replaced by the pre-ww2 ones.
For computing, or even typing e-mails - use PC with a real, not virtual, high quality truly ergonomic keyboard (not some anti-ergonomic microsoft Natural but Kinesis, or Darwin, or Maltron or something like that).

I am of the same opinion about laptop or notebook computers as well.
I am yet to meet one with an ergonomic keyboard.
They are just as useless to me as iPad is.
If I have to attach an external keyboard anyway, I'd rather attach it to a full tower PC with a system of 2-3 high quality large monitors.

But for reading books you need a rooted T2
And the question, why people need to root and not to use an e-reader right out-of-the-box - this is a question to Sony, not to me.
Yes, they should have Cool Reader pre-installed. Or an equivalent adequate software. Not the c-word they are putting in T2.

[jersysman]

Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

For you, perhaps, but not for everyone. I bought my T1 knowing it was rootable, but after using it for a week or so I saw no reason to root it - it does exactly what I need / want just the way it is. Calibre manages the collections on it just fine, and it's been stable from day one.

I do not like rooting anything. If it does not work the way I want it to right out of the box, then I will not get it.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by DuskyRose

I have both the T1 and the T2. I rooted each to see what the big deal was, and found it was a lot of work for no real return for me.

So I unrooted them and have been happy with them as is as long as I don't overload them. Otherwise, they work find just as they are.

And I wasn't very impressed with CoolReader on the hacked Sony's. For the Tablets it's either Marvin or Aldiko for me.

You know, I probably told that story already, not sure, but I have a friend who was sharing a T2 with his wife just fine. Then I gave him my Cool Reader settings. Suddenly they were fighting over the T2 and finally got another one.
So now they have two. My settings made all the difference for them.
Entirely new and wonderful reading experience. When you say you tried Cool Reader - that does not mean you really tried enough.

Another thing about T2 (and all 6" readers) - it is much better to use landscape orientation with it. Not only it is more pleasant to read with wider margins and the usual text width as in printed books, but also the way you can hold it in your hand with the cover turned all the way back.
It just hangs on your fingers, you can have your hand relaxed fully. And no danger of dropping the reader whatsoever.

Let me describe it in detail:
Lets say, that your thumb is finger number 1, pinky - finger number 5.
Then you do this:
1 - on the front side, also used for next page
2 - on top of the reader, on the edge between the reader and the fully opened cover.
3 - inside between the reader and the cover, the reader is hanging on this finger
4 and 5 - outside the cover, they provide the stability, the cover is wedged between those fingers and the 3 finger.

Try this. Your hand is completely relaxed. And you are completely relaxed without any fear of dropping the reader.

So, it is very easy to have correct wide margins for landscape in Cool Reader.
You can even have a special profile for landscape.
But if you want landscape with the native Sony reader, and you - naturally - want 1 cm or wider margins in landscape - you need to modify .css file for each epub if you are using Sony native reader.

[CWatkinsNash]

Originally Posted by jersysman

I do not like rooting anything. If it does not work the way I want it to right out of the box, then I will not get it.

For me it's a compromise. I like having the option to root a device, but I much prefer finding something that works the way I want it to. My Moto smartphone got rooted, but my Pantech Flex is fine the way it is. I rooted my tablet. I jailbroke my K3. But I'm much happier not having to root the T1 to have a good experience with it.

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by parkher

Look, the person to whom I was replying clearly has various iDevices with color already - with much better color than e-ink will ever have.

For other people - sure, you may buy Ectaco if you want and enjoy its pale barely visible colors and nicely colored out of focus pale black and white text.
But please don't make Sony to switch to color!

And when you say
"...have no interest whatsoever in coolreader even on their tablets"
that tells me that we really are from different worlds.

even on their tablets? - that is a shocking statement to me.

I would never ever consider a tablet as suitable for reading books - why would anybody need a Cool Reader on a tablet?
For Cool Reader you buy T2 and root it. That how it is done.

In my opinion, iPad is good for one thing only: as a gift.
For reading books you should use an e-ink reader
For watching movies you should use a large plasma TV. Or even larger projector for 3D.
For listening music use high quality tube amplifiers with golden wires and with tubes replaced by the pre-ww2 ones.
For computing, or even typing e-mails - use PC with a real, not virtual, high quality truly ergonomic keyboard (not some anti-ergonomic microsoft Natural but Kinesis, or Darwin, or Maltron or something like that).

I am of the same opinion about laptop or notebook computers as well.
I am yet to meet one with an ergonomic keyboard.
They are just as useless to me as iPad is.
If I have to attach an external keyboard anyway, I'd rather attach it to a full tower PC with a system of 2-3 high quality large monitors.

But for reading books you need a rooted T2
And the question, why people need to root and not to use an e-reader right out-of-the-box - this is a question to Sony, not to me.
Yes, they should have Cool Reader pre-installed. Or an equivalent adequate software. Not the c-word they are putting in T2.

I agree on some of your points especially the one about two different worlds.

I too prefer a real PC and have an I7 2nd gen with a 24 inch monitor and I will probably upgrade both this year this year. But I travel a lot and do not want to carry them around with me. Working in a sawmill, programming the sorters and edgers etc. without a laptop is not very convenient. And using the 20 year old sawmill computers makes me cry. Much more convenient to cart around my laptop and my keyboard/mouse. I am like you in that I like a real keyboard and mouse.

I don't care for coolreader, although I am sure there are reasons people use it other than that it is all they know how to use. I also don't care for Moon+reader or Aldiko all that much, although Aldiko seems reasonable at least.

Then again I don't use them and am probably not aware of the millions of really cool features that make them indispensable in reading books. I even manage to choke down 4-8 books a week without them, and am obviously too stupid to realize what they would do to enlighten my reading experience. Can you read faster, understand better, or do they have other invaluable properties I am unaware of? I don't annotate fiction and what little need of a dictionary I have is easy enough to satisfy with an online dictionary once or twice a year, although I can see a vastly superior dictionary would be a big bonus for some. Does Coolreader have the best dictionary ever? Why else do you consider it essential, when the rest of my world seems to struggle on without it? And yes I have tried it and was very unimpressed so I would actually like to know.

As for actually needing a rooted T2 to read books, I am pretty sure that you don't. Well maybe you do, but I don't seem to have the same problem.

Helen

[ucfgrad93]

Originally Posted by parkher

But for reading books you need a rooted T2

I wonder what I've been doing with my Kindle for the last 3 1/2 years.

Just because you find a rooted T2 essential for reading, doesn't mean everyone else does.

[parkher]

Helen,

You might be right, I don't even care to try out other readers because Cool Reader has all I need and I am accustomed to using it.

1. Cool Reader (jotas version) fully supports T2 buttons. That cannot be said about many other android readers.
It is a very important advantage to me. As I don't like touching the screen.
And also, other readers may not work well with e-ink and its slower refresh.

For example, if I can do everything with T2 buttons, using page down / page up in every list, it is so much better than to drag with the finger instead, especially that other apps like to add lcd-oriented animations - unnecessary intermediate refreshes that are bad on e-ink.

Furthermore, Cool Reader allows to map various actions on T2 buttons.
I have mapped to the buttons, for example:
- switching the status bar on/off
- switching using internal book formatting on/off
- switching between profiles
- invoking the list of last read books

2. The list of last read books is very important to me, so no accident I have it mapped to a button.
For one thing, I like trying reading many various books. And I like reading a few books simultaneously and switch between them too.
But also, from that list Cool Reader allows to get directly to the folder of the book.
It is a very convenient shortcut when I want to open another book.
From the same folder or from some other folder nearby.

3. Actually, Cool Reader for me is more than a reader. It is the whole OS, really.
I never leave it. It never happen for me to exit it.
Because I have everything right there inside it.
I have all my books in a hierarchical directory structure, easy to navigate and find books.
And Cool Reader has its internal file manager. And also the above mentioned list of last opened books - a very convenient shortcut.

4. Because of the internal manager in Cool Reader, I am able to switch off completely the Sony indexing of books. So T2 does not choke with too many books.

5. Cool Reader nicely integrates with several dictionary apps. My favorite is GoldenDict.
Android dictionary apps, unfortunately do not support fully T2 buttons yet.
But GoldenDict is the most easy and convenient to use. At least it has buttons on the screen and it allows to jump to one specific dictionary. And partially T2 buttons are supported by a hack which comes in a rooted T2 (button support in ListView).
GoldenDict supports multiple dictionaries of dsl, lsd and stardict type, and others.
And it is very fast.
I have more than 40 dictionaries simultaneously, they take 10 GB on my external card, and GoldenDict has no problem with so many dictionaries.

So yes, the ability to use any dictionaries I want and any number I want simultaneously from Cool Reader is a big deal for me too.

When you can lookup a word almost instantly, you are using dictionary more often than when you need to go to the computer.
I have great encyclopedic dictionaries on T2. They fill well the gaps in my education: history, geography, mythology, you name it - its like having wikipedia on T2.
Actually, you probably can have wikipedia integrated as a dictionary, but I never use wi-fi, so I wouldn't know.
Furthermore, words in dictionaries in GoldenDict can be chain-referenced. Very convenient. Even switching between multiple languages in a chain.

6. Cool Reader has its own high quality renderer and really shows books very nicely: with multiple hyphenation dictionaries available for splitting words, handling footnotes perfectly, etc. Lots of things that can be fine-tuned in settings.

7. As I wrote before, for me it is crucial to have good landscape support: because 6" screen is too narrow for portrait, and because it is so much easier to hold the ereader in landscape than in portrait. Believe me, if the ereader has a cover, landscape is perfect for holding it with a completely relaxed hand.
And for lanscape I need wide margins - you don't want the line of text to be too long, and you also don't want the text to be too close to the edges of the screen, especially if the bezel is black.
So you need a reader that allows to set margins 1 cm or wider. Cool Reader easily can do this. Probably a number of other readers, though. Certainly not the native Sony reader - they forgot margins completely.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by ucfgrad93

I wonder what I've been doing with my Kindle for the last 3 1/2 years.

Sorry, I cannot answer that question.
I often wonder myself, why people are buying Kindles? What possibly they might be doing with them?
Playing frisbee?



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