07-01-2013, 03:30 PM | #136 |
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07-01-2013, 04:28 PM | #137 |
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Isn't all this talk of illegal acts and presumed innocence immaterial since it's just tax avoidance and not evasion that Amazon and others are allegedly involved in doing (and it's only the latter that is illegal)? Sorry if this has been discussed earlier in the thread.
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07-01-2013, 06:18 PM | #138 | |
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"Presumed innocent" means exactly *that*; in the eyes of the *law* you are *literally* innocent until convicted. For that matter, as DNA testing has proved over and over, hundreds of convicted "wrongdoers" in jail are in fact totally innocent of the charges they were convicted of "violating". Any legal system run by humans is going to be fallible and subject to abuses so those protections are necessary merely to *minimize* the impact of the unavoidable errors. Legal subtleties are likewise a necessity to deal with a world of shades of gray; we *need* distinctions between merely gaming the system (Tax minimization) and breaking existing laws (outright tax easion) as much as we need a distiction between accidental manslaughter (often out of sheer stupidity) and willful murder out of outright malice. This latter distinction is currently being played out in an american court right now in an unnecessary "drama" that will end in nothing good for anybody. |
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And proven-false myths keep getting repeated over and over, as if sheer repetition could make them magically true. (Shrug.) |
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It may not have dealt the cards in that particular case (the French one under discussion at the beginning of the thread), but it sure knows how to get the cards it wants in other cases. Which is not something that only Amazon does -- almost every big corporation does that. Matt |
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