Anyone watching the MS-BN announcement?

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Just don't expect everyone else to be. Some of us expect an open marketplace for hardware and software so that our individual needs can be addressed.

Which is why Apple sells just a few products aimed at a specific niche and leaves the rest to its competitors. They have never tried to be all things to all people (like this: http://www.shopping.hp.com/is-bin/IN..._Ready-to-ship )

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Which is why Apple sells just a few products aimed at a specific niche and leaves the rest to its competitors. They have never tried to be all things to all people

But often their die-hard fans insist that they are all things to all people; we just don't want the right things.

(Not that these fans are vastly different than fans of other products)

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

But often their die-hard fans insist that they are all things to all people;

1. Is a strawman
2. Die hard fans always in minority

[ScotiaBurrell]

Just read a quote

Future Microsoft products always beat current Apple products.

Very true.

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

1. Is a strawman

Please explain how. I'm not trying to be obtuse; I have no idea why you think so.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

Please explain how.

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Which is why Apple sells just a few products aimed at a specific niche and leaves the rest to its competitors. They have never tried to be all things to all people.

I'm not sure how to reply to this.

Option 1: If you're getting confused by the options on HP's website, try using the filters on the left hand side. (Examples: price, screen size, etc.). You can quickly get the list down to one or two computers.

Option 2: Apple isn't all that much better. They offer 10 laptops. Quite often the distinguishing features are just as confusing and are mostly intended to convince the consumer to buy up. (Example: very few consumers will notice the difference between a 2.3 and 2.6 GHz processor.)

Either way, HP offers a much broader range of options because their customers have a much broader range of needs. On the other hand, Apple abuses the devout nature of it's customers to cut down on the options and keep prices high.

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

Umm, I know what a strawman is, but your witty link is nonetheless noted. I asked why you think the statement that die-hard Apple fans, like other fans, often think that their product is the only/best option for everyone is a strawman.

Please note, I never said it was your opinion, but if the shoe fits, feel free to slip it on.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Either way, HP offers a much broader range of options because their customers have a much broader range of needs.

Shareholders very, very pleased with this public service?

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Shareholders very, very pleased with this public service?

I don't give a damn about HP's shareholders, and don't consider it to be a public service. I just like having choices.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Unless it makes money (pleases shareholders) business dies.

Then have much much less choice.

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Unless it makes money (pleases shareholders) business dies.

Then have much much less choice.

So your theory is that businesses should offer less choices, so that they can avoid offering too many choices, which will piss off their shareholders, causing them to go out of business, in which case we will have less choices?

I like it; the fewer choices a business offers, the more they are looking out for us by enabling us to have more choices.

I'm dizzy.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Not my position either, but is ok.

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Shareholders very, very pleased with this public service?

It's a business decision, not a public service. HP decided that the best way to maintain market share, and presumably profitability, was to serve every market that they can. In a way, they have to because it is an incredibly competitive marketplace for them.

Personally, I can deal with any given vendor offering less choice because there are other vendors to choose from. If you want a big name, there's companies like Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Toshiba. I am not stuck with a single supplier. The same goes for Windows 8 tablets.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

there are other vendors to choose from.

Very true.