Pages... Do we need them - Page 2

Blackadder · 05-25-2012, 02:46 PM

Must admit I agree with all that's been said. It's page turns all the way for me

EowynCarter · 05-26-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirtai

I personally find page turns easier to track than scrolling. When scrolling I sometimes lose track of which line I was on which is really annoying, with pages that doesn't happen.

Yeah, that !

One thing i like with pages as adobe use them, it's an indication of how long the book is.

ucfgrad93 · 05-26-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Belfaborac

No scrolling ereaders for me thanks.

Me either.

frostschutz · 05-26-2012, 01:55 PM

eInk display technology is ill suited to scrolling, obviously.

But on a device that has real time display and touch technology it could be very natural to just scroll with your finger. On such a device, a reading app that does not support both paging and scrolling could be considered as lacking in features.

I like scrolling the way e.g. Firefox does it. You can scroll, or you can read page-wise like by hitting the space key. Hitting the space key makes it scroll down a "page" with a little overlap.

I could sometimes use the overlap on the ereader. I sometimes have to flip back a page to reread part of the sentence.

piperclassique · 05-26-2012, 03:21 PM

So, in order to read this thread, what am I doing.

Scrolling

Except, for page two (on an ipad) I have to find the teeny tiny next arrow and touch it very very accurately or faff around zooming to get to the next, well, page.

I used to read on a palm which would autoscroll, but I never could get the speed right....
Scrolling is OK by me

Kirtai · 05-26-2012, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piperclassique

Except, for page two (on an ipad) I have to find the teeny tiny next arrow and touch it very very accurately or faff around zooming to get to the next, well, page.

I'd say that's more a fault of typical web design. (of which I'm not a fan)

LovesMacs · 05-28-2012, 11:37 AM

I prefer page numbers because they are a familiar paradigm. Scrolling works but it doesn't feel as precise.

Just speculating but perhaps one day most readers will be used to scrolling through text and find the concept of pages antiquated.

Ravensknight · 05-28-2012, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piperclassique

So, in order to read this thread, what am I doing.

Scrolling

Except, for page two (on an ipad) I have to find the teeny tiny next arrow and touch it very very accurately or faff around zooming to get to the next, well, page.

I used to read on a palm which would autoscroll, but I never could get the speed right....
Scrolling is OK by me

Yes, but each statement is broken up by gigantic separators, etc. Makes it much easier to keep track of what is being said by who and when.

Forums like this, and lots of the 'net, are visually arranged to take advantage of scrolling.

Books, at least text heavy books like novels, are not geared toward that. It is comparing apples and bananas...

plib · 05-28-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravensknight

It is comparing apples and bananas...

Uh, oh! Now you've done it. Cue tubemonkey!

Ravensknight · 05-28-2012, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plib

Uh, oh! Now you've done it. Cue tubemonkey!

Once I posted, and realized what I'd written, I too was waiting for Tubemonkey to make a showing. No doubt he will later

Ekaros · 05-28-2012, 12:45 PM

For formatted text where there is some sort of brakes(like this forum) scrolling works as you can easily keep reference point. For pure text pages creates this. On other hand it's nice to have some sort of closure for chapters with pages which are empty, allows room to stop reading ;D

Apache · 05-28-2012, 04:29 PM

This is for Tubemonkey.

Apache

DreamWriter · 05-28-2012, 09:49 PM

I prefer turning pages with a physical button. That's why I like my Kindle Keyboard. Tapping the screen to turn pages in the Kindle app on my tablet isn't too bad, but I wouldn't want to scroll up/down.

charlesatan · 05-29-2012, 01:33 AM

Either is fine.

Although the question becomes, what will my reference point be?

morantis · 05-29-2012, 01:43 AM

Two things, one....I hate squeeze pages. A squeeze page is an internet page or email that uses just one page, very long to display all of the information. If I saw a book in this format, it would remind me way too much of a scam email. Also, you need pages for easy reference.

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05-25-2012, 02:46 PM	#16
Blackadder Somewhat bored Posts: 65 Karma: 499999 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Device: Kobo Glo hd	Must admit I agree with all that's been said. It's page turns all the way for me

05-26-2012, 01:55 PM	#19
frostschutz Linux User Posts: 2,282 Karma: 6123806 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Device: none	eInk display technology is ill suited to scrolling, obviously. But on a device that has real time display and touch technology it could be very natural to just scroll with your finger. On such a device, a reading app that does not support both paging and scrolling could be considered as lacking in features. I like scrolling the way e.g. Firefox does it. You can scroll, or you can read page-wise like by hitting the space key. Hitting the space key makes it scroll down a "page" with a little overlap. I could sometimes use the overlap on the ereader. I sometimes have to flip back a page to reread part of the sentence.

05-26-2012, 03:21 PM	#20
piperclassique A garbling groftpot Posts: 996 Karma: 9234667 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: France Device: Oasis, Voyage, Kobo mini, Samsung tablet, phones, whatever.	So, in order to read this thread, what am I doing. Scrolling Except, for page two (on an ipad) I have to find the teeny tiny next arrow and touch it very very accurately or faff around zooming to get to the next, well, page. I used to read on a palm which would autoscroll, but I never could get the speed right.... Scrolling is OK by me

05-28-2012, 11:37 AM	#22
LovesMacs Fanatic Posts: 513 Karma: 2644386 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: iPhone, Kindle Touch	I prefer page numbers because they are a familiar paradigm. Scrolling works but it doesn't feel as precise. Just speculating but perhaps one day most readers will be used to scrolling through text and find the concept of pages antiquated.

05-28-2012, 12:45 PM	#26
Ekaros Illiterate newbie Posts: 661 Karma: 1702090 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Finland Device: Sony PRS-T1	For formatted text where there is some sort of brakes(like this forum) scrolling works as you can easily keep reference point. For pure text pages creates this. On other hand it's nice to have some sort of closure for chapters with pages which are empty, allows room to stop reading ;D

05-28-2012, 04:29 PM	#27
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,306 Karma: 90981752 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	This is for Tubemonkey. Apache

05-28-2012, 09:49 PM	#28
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	I prefer turning pages with a physical button. That's why I like my Kindle Keyboard. Tapping the screen to turn pages in the Kindle app on my tablet isn't too bad, but I wouldn't want to scroll up/down.

05-29-2012, 01:33 AM	#29
charlesatan Addict Posts: 230 Karma: 3799024 Join Date: May 2012 Device: iPad	Either is fine. Although the question becomes, what will my reference point be?

05-29-2012, 01:43 AM	#30
morantis Zealot Posts: 125 Karma: 769546 Join Date: May 2012 Device: none	Two things, one....I hate squeeze pages. A squeeze page is an internet page or email that uses just one page, very long to display all of the information. If I saw a book in this format, it would remind me way too much of a scam email. Also, you need pages for easy reference.