|  05-25-2012, 10:29 AM | #1 | 
| Somewhat bored            Posts: 65 Karma: 499999 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Device: Kobo Glo hd | 
				
				Pages... Do we need them
			 
			
			Obviously paper books do, paper sort of lends itself nicely to pages Ebooks, suppose scrolling is a bit poor on them so pages appear to be the best option. But computer/tablet/phone screens no such problems. So, for reading books, is a ‘page’ turn really necessary. Why not just scroll down, well, until the end of the book. The question then is, would you read a book that didn’t have pages and scrolled all the way down? | 
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|  05-25-2012, 10:43 AM | #2 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,705 Karma: 12696746 Join Date: May 2010 Device: K3, Kobo Mini | 
			
			I wouldn't. Part of the reason I have an ereader is that I am still able to "turn a page". It acts like a book should IMO. I don't like scrolling on my blackberry, I feel more like I'm reading a document rather than turning the page of a book. I'm picky that way.
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|  05-25-2012, 10:43 AM | #3 | 
| Philosopher            Posts: 2,034 Karma: 18736532 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2 gen, Kindle Fire 1st Gen, Kindle Touch | 
			
			I don't like scrolling. I like just clicking a button and getting the next screenful of data. Scrolling seems too much like a computer.
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|  05-25-2012, 10:43 AM | #4 | 
| Addict            Posts: 304 Karma: 2454436 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: PRS-505, PRS-650, iPad, Samsung Galaxy SII (JB), Google Nexus 7 (2013) | 
			
			I personally find page turns easier to track than scrolling. When scrolling I sometimes lose track of which line I was on which is really annoying, with pages that doesn't happen.
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|  05-25-2012, 10:44 AM | #5 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | Quote: 
 No, I wouldn't read a book if you had to continuously "scroll all the way down." I don't care whether you call it "pages," "screens," or whatever... I want to see one chunk of text, and then I want to exchange that for an entirely new chunk of text... not mostly the same text with a few new lines added to the bottom and a few lines taken away from the top. Left-to-right, top-to-bottom, and then back to the top again. That's the way I want to read. Ditto this. | |
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|  05-25-2012, 10:44 AM | #6 | 
| Groupie            Posts: 150 Karma: 1215642 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Utah Device: iriver Story HD, Android | 
			
			I find the page paradigm familiar and comfortable, and that might not change. As you say, pages are the best option for current e-ink technology. But in the past I've read books on my computer in ASCII text, without pages. I've also read a number of PG books in a browser, without pages. I would say "no pages" makes more sense for fiction than nonfiction, since for citing sources it's very helpful to have consistent page numbers to refer to. | 
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|  05-25-2012, 10:47 AM | #7 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,717 Karma: 3790058 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NYC Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Sony 650 | 
			
			I have used several "read later" (Instapaper, Read It Later, Pocket) apps on my iPhone. I really hate it when I swipe my thumb up and the screen goes too far so I miss some lines of text. Then I have to swipe slowly and I don't get *enough* lines and I have to do it again. I have never found one that really works well for me. With pages, you never have this problem. Every screen is exactly the lines you haven't read yet, nothing more, nothing less. eP | 
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|  05-25-2012, 10:48 AM | #8 | 
| Guru            Posts: 750 Karma: 3942770 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: American living in Australia Device: Kobo Libra Colour, Kindle Fire, Kindle Pwhite (Don't use Nook anymore) | 
			
			I like having pages. I like flipping the page, and I like being able to refer to a page number if I'm talking about it to someone.
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|  05-25-2012, 10:52 AM | #9 | |
| Guru            Posts: 822 Karma: 1341819 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Minnesota USA Device: Sony 350, Sony T1, Kindle Touch, Kindle PW1 | Quote: 
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|  05-25-2012, 12:01 PM | #10 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,735 Karma: 75825105 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: PDXish Device: Kindle Voyage, various Android devices | 
			
			On a computer with a mouse I don't mind reading when scrolling. My wife makes fun of me when I do it because I am constantly using the mouse to highlight my spot. In an e-reader (or really any device without a mouse) I hate scrolling to read. It is too easy to lose my spot, scroll too far, not scroll far enough...
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|  05-25-2012, 12:19 PM | #11 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,498 Karma: 5199835 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Norway Device: Sony PRS-505, PRS-950 | |
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|  05-25-2012, 12:22 PM | #12 | 
| doofus            Posts: 2,555 Karma: 13089041 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Voyage | 
			
			Scrolling is better in some instances, e.g., text interspersed with lots of images.  In that case, you either break up the image with pagination, or do you display it on next page and leave too much white space.  But that is rare. Pagination wins in most cases, as it takes little to no effort to track where you are. Especially on a touch device, where you don't have discrete pageup/pagedn keys but imprecise flick scrolling instead. When I read long articles on the iPad using something like readitlater or instapaper, I prefer to use pagination if the app supports it. I remember there was an app that let me do both -- flick scroll and pagination. I thought it was cool at first, but it just ended up being unpredictable and troublesome. Last edited by Barty; 05-25-2012 at 12:27 PM. | 
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|  05-25-2012, 01:40 PM | #13 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,592 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2 | 
			
			On my LCD based devices, I prefer having whole screenfuls of text at a time. Even webpages, I just hit the page down button, instead of normal scrolling.
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|  05-25-2012, 01:47 PM | #14 | |
| Readaholic            Posts: 5,306 Karma: 90981752 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8" | Quote: 
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|  05-25-2012, 01:55 PM | #15 | 
| Guru            Posts: 895 Karma: 4383958 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: na | 
			
			There are times I like to scroll whilst reading, but for ebooks, pages all the way.
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