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Old 01-16-2012, 07:23 PM   #16
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Don't worry, there won't be a President Romney. His own base won't support him enough to get him elected...
I'm not worried. I really don't care who gets elected. Either one is a disaster.
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:52 PM   #17
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I'm not worried. I really don't care who gets elected. Either one is a disaster.
Romney is the best one on the republican side. But too bad he's not as good as Obama. What I'd like to see what what Obama can get accomplished if we dump the republican congress.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #18
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Strange, I can't find confirmation of these news on sites like CNN ?
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:28 AM   #20
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:50 AM   #21
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In response to both SOPA and PIPA, House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) launched what he’s calling the Keep The Web OPEN Project to underscore the importance of a free and open Internet and to offer up alternative legislation for protecting intellectual property while avoiding online censorship.
I find thie above quote disturbing. Whilst nice on the surface I don't believe that there is a way to protect most of the intellectual property concerned, or at least not one remotely consistent with individual freedom and freedom of expression.

Does this mean that now we have been properly terrified by SOPA and PIPPA we will be expected to support less extreme but still abhorrent measures as the lesser evil? Trojan horses are not confined just to the world of computer viruses.
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Sure you can. Control access to internet connections across the border, prosecute domestic copyright violators, and block the domains of nations that refuse to reciprocate.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:19 AM   #23
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Sure you can. Control access to internet connections across the border, prosecute domestic copyright violators, and block the domains of nations that refuse to reciprocate.
  1. No; that's censorship.
  2. Agree
  3. Absolutely not. That's censorship again. Block the violator.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:39 AM   #24
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Sure you can. Control access to internet connections across the border, prosecute domestic copyright violators, and block the domains of nations that refuse to reciprocate.
Yes, let's fine those people that download a few songs. And let's keep those fines reasonable too!

I too think that something needs to be done to protect some form of copyright (just not this one, as it's way out of control, but that's a side issue). But not by prosecuting domestic copyright violators with these out-of-control claims...
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The biggest reasons why they're not prosecuting now, and instead doing lawsuits, is that it is WAY easier to win a civil suit on this sort of thing instead of criminal case, and they can get more money this way. If they tried the same tactics for a criminal case, the cases would be thrown out of court.
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I too think that something needs to be done to protect some form of copyright (just not this one, as it's way out of control, but that's a side issue). But not by prosecuting domestic copyright violators with these out-of-control claims...
Well, there's always the old standby of putting watermark footers into PDFs, or inserting a "This ebook compiled for..." line at the end of an ePub. If you find ebooks from them on torrent sites, you proceed to baninate individual accounts.

Its also a system that's fairly unobtrusive to the reader.
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Well, there's always the old standby of putting watermark footers into PDFs, or inserting a "This ebook compiled for..." line at the end of an ePub. If you find ebooks from them on torrent sites, you proceed to baninate individual accounts.

Its also a system that's fairly unobtrusive to the reader.
And without DRM to prevent access to the underlying files, it is useless, because it can be trivially removed.
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Strange, I can't find confirmation of these news on sites like CNN ?
How about Gamespot?
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And without DRM to prevent access to the underlying files, it is useless, because it can be trivially removed.
Removing DRM is basically just as trivial.
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