Touch Kobo Touch Firmware 1.9.16 - Page 2

MDK · 12-23-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by feedbakbwr

My desktop software keeps looping to update every time i run the desktop software?

I've sent you instructions to help us track the issue for you.

Thanks!

spindlegirl · 12-23-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sao

That's interesting. Mine started up showing the shortlist by default. I only saw the new releases/featured option when I noticed the menu arrows and clicked on it. I do like that they've given you that option.

That's good to know! The shortlist by default is good.

imsoawesome · 12-23-2011, 02:57 PM

I'm noticing a bug when selecting items on menus in that selected items are non responsive until a second click is made.

For instance I clicked on a read book by mistake and it reopened it and thus marked itself partially read. When I click to select ' mark as finished' the line will go black as if it has been selected but it hangs there unmoving not doing anything. It will not complete the action until I click and select something else.

The first few times I did this resulted in me thinking I had not clicked properly and reclicking the same link which wound up both activating my original selection and then selecting tue book under the menu with my second click, causing me to have to remark it as finished again. Cyclically hilarious but frustrating to deal with several times in a row.

I also agree please let us disable the bottom bar! I regret this update and it is the first update from kobo that didn't improve my experience.

kaikara · 12-23-2011, 03:21 PM

The bottom bar doesn't really bother me but it would be nice if you could have a choice to remove it. Otherwise the other improvements are great. The text does look crisper and the page turns are better for me which is more important.

ltr · 12-23-2011, 03:23 PM

Yeah, I don't mind the sidebar on the desktop application (although the recommended list displays some books I already have in my library - can't they check that?), but I would like to remove it on my reader.

ltr

beautifulsoup · 12-23-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ltr

Yeah, I don't mind the sidebar on the desktop application (although the recommended list displays some books I already have in my library - can't they check that?), but I would like to remove it on my reader.

ltr

Whereas I really dislike that sidebar on the desktop.

I haven't updated the reader yet....

ltr · 12-23-2011, 03:48 PM

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Whereas I really dislike that sidebar on the desktop.

There should definitely be a way to disable it both on the reader and the desktop.

Putting advertising that can't be removed is bad form.

ltr

nogle · 12-23-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ltr

There should definitely be a way to disable it both on the reader and the desktop.

Putting advertising that can't be removed is bad form.

ltr

I tend to agree. Even with the short list option, I would still like the option of removing it all together.

The home menu is taking a bit of getting used to, but I think I will end up liking it.

taming · 12-23-2011, 04:30 PM

ltr--at this point, the way to influence what appears in our recommendations seems to be dependent on what we do on the kobobooks.com home page with the recommendations listings there. EDIT When you make books disappear from the recommendations scrubber on kobobooks.com, they also disappear from your carousel as long as you have another choice (like shortlist) chosen when you do a sync. I understand that at some point in the future we will be able to make similar choices from the Touch--with the opportunity to provide feedback on what appears there and with the recommendations engine learning from that.

I think the "carousel" at the bottom is a work in progress and that the choices available to us will change over time. I don't mind having recommendations as long as they seem tailored to my taste in books--and that seems like it is coming along--compared to what we were seeing in the betas. I would not be surprised to see other possibilities in carousel choices as this feature is developed. Those of us who have hung in there with Kobo know that the company actually listens to customer feedback on things like this and makes incremental changes that reflect that feedback.

I much prefer that process to being presented with a feature that is set in stone and will not be changed until a new device is released a year later. It's a messier process, for sure, and there are often missteps along the way, but I think we end up with a better device as a result of it all.

ldrover · 12-23-2011, 05:08 PM

Not sure what Kobo has done, but if you look at the contents of your device with Calibre, there are several books identified as missing files since the upgrade. They all appear to be ones Kobo would like us to buy. Actually, it is quite a mess!

taming · 12-23-2011, 05:21 PM

It may be that Tim Legge needs to update the Calibre driver to accommodate the covers only "books" that are now in the carousel. That kind of thing has happened in the past--where the Calibre version is a step or two behind as a result of the reader changes.

Canorka · 12-23-2011, 05:32 PM

No noticeable speed increase on page turns here, or improved text sharpness, so kind of an inconsequential update for me.

I really wish the home page carousel would remember that I set it to Shortlist whenever I go back Home.

timlegge · 12-23-2011, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ldrover

Not sure what Kobo has done, but if you look at the contents of your device with Calibre, there are several books identified as missing files since the upgrade. They all appear to be ones Kobo would like us to buy. Actually, it is quite a mess!

I will take a look soon and a fix will be in next weeks calibre. Between Christmas and everything else I really have not gotten around to testing calibre with this release.

Calibre support is not kobo's issue.

Tim

Terisa de morgan · 12-23-2011, 06:14 PM

So, in short, the new release offers ads you can't disable (at least in a permanent way if wi-fi is on) and no way to order your books yet. No a good release, at least from my point of view (aside of the number of published releases, that's not the point).

JD Gumby · 12-23-2011, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDK

Kobo Touch Firmware 1.9.16 and desktop 2.1.6 will be released shortly.

Kobo Touch:

• The new 'Recommended for you' list automatically finds books tailored to your tastes

Yay for keeping track of my private information and placing advertising on my full-price Kobo Touch. :/ *spit*

I won't be updating (fortunately, 1.9.14 is nice and stable for me) and Kobo certainly won't be getting any more of my money because of this.

12-23-2011, 04:30 PM	#24
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	ltr--at this point, the way to influence what appears in our recommendations seems to be dependent on what we do on the kobobooks.com home page with the recommendations listings there. EDIT When you make books disappear from the recommendations scrubber on kobobooks.com, they also disappear from your carousel as long as you have another choice (like shortlist) chosen when you do a sync. I understand that at some point in the future we will be able to make similar choices from the Touch--with the opportunity to provide feedback on what appears there and with the recommendations engine learning from that. I think the "carousel" at the bottom is a work in progress and that the choices available to us will change over time. I don't mind having recommendations as long as they seem tailored to my taste in books--and that seems like it is coming along--compared to what we were seeing in the betas. I would not be surprised to see other possibilities in carousel choices as this feature is developed. Those of us who have hung in there with Kobo know that the company actually listens to customer feedback on things like this and makes incremental changes that reflect that feedback. I much prefer that process to being presented with a feature that is set in stone and will not be changed until a new device is released a year later. It's a messier process, for sure, and there are often missteps along the way, but I think we end up with a better device as a result of it all. Last edited by taming; 12-23-2011 at 05:16 PM. Reason: See EDIT

12-23-2011, 05:08 PM	#25
ldrover Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 4890 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bedford, Nova Scotia Device: iPad Mini	Weird Not sure what Kobo has done, but if you look at the contents of your device with Calibre, there are several books identified as missing files since the upgrade. They all appear to be ones Kobo would like us to buy. Actually, it is quite a mess!

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12-23-2011, 02:57 PM	#18
imsoawesome Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 1398 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: Kobo Touch	I'm noticing a bug when selecting items on menus in that selected items are non responsive until a second click is made. For instance I clicked on a read book by mistake and it reopened it and thus marked itself partially read. When I click to select ' mark as finished' the line will go black as if it has been selected but it hangs there unmoving not doing anything. It will not complete the action until I click and select something else. The first few times I did this resulted in me thinking I had not clicked properly and reclicking the same link which wound up both activating my original selection and then selecting tue book under the menu with my second click, causing me to have to remark it as finished again. Cyclically hilarious but frustrating to deal with several times in a row. I also agree please let us disable the bottom bar! I regret this update and it is the first update from kobo that didn't improve my experience.

12-23-2011, 03:21 PM	#19
kaikara Zealot Posts: 110 Karma: 347050 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Glo, Kobo Touch, Kobo Vox	The bottom bar doesn't really bother me but it would be nice if you could have a choice to remove it. Otherwise the other improvements are great. The text does look crisper and the page turns are better for me which is more important.

12-23-2011, 03:23 PM	#20
ltr Addict Posts: 399 Karma: 104628 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Canada Device: Kindle PW-2	Yeah, I don't mind the sidebar on the desktop application (although the recommended list displays some books I already have in my library - can't they check that?), but I would like to remove it on my reader. ltr

12-23-2011, 05:21 PM	#26
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	It may be that Tim Legge needs to update the Calibre driver to accommodate the covers only "books" that are now in the carousel. That kind of thing has happened in the past--where the Calibre version is a step or two behind as a result of the reader changes.

12-23-2011, 05:32 PM	#27
Canorka Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 4254 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norway Device: Kobo Touch	No noticeable speed increase on page turns here, or improved text sharpness, so kind of an inconsequential update for me. I really wish the home page carousel would remember that I set it to Shortlist whenever I go back Home.

12-23-2011, 06:14 PM	#29
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,686 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	So, in short, the new release offers ads you can't disable (at least in a permanent way if wi-fi is on) and no way to order your books yet. No a good release, at least from my point of view (aside of the number of published releases, that's not the point).