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Old 11-09-2011, 01:52 PM   #16
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Tablets too? not said is if mobile browsing is growing, this eventually will effect the PC's too. Those developers will not do rich difficult sites in both platforms. HTML5 will eventually be the one language.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:16 PM   #17
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so no more flash games on mobile browsers?
Flash games will become AIR apps, made available via the various app stores (as they are already). They will still develop mobile AIR runtimes, which supports iOS as well.
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Tablets too? not said is if mobile browsing is growing, this eventually will effect the PC's too. Those developers will not do rich difficult sites in both platforms. HTML5 will eventually be the one language.
Before it becomes the one language, a new one will emerge.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:06 PM   #19
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Before it becomes the one language, a new one will emerge.
As it probably always will be. Just when we get comfy in our HTML5 canvases...a new challenger will plunk down a quarter and join the fray.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:12 PM   #20
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I remember Cobal and Fortran.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:59 PM   #21
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Flash works "ok", no great on my Samsung Galaxy SII and I know is not my cellphone, but Flash itself.

However, I'm not a Apple fan-boy. I do not care if Steve Jobs was a Flash fan or not, but the thing is that I know of couple of websites that still require or were designed on top of Adobe Flash.

Now, do I notice the lack of Flash support on my iPad2? Not much. Most bank websites have apps already, so I don't need to use the regular website. CBS moved or will be moving to HTML5 as well, if I'm not mistaken.

In a nutshell: whatever is better for the user, for us, very welcome!
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:33 PM   #22
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I like having Flash on my Xoom. There is still plenty of video that requires this, and I subscribe to a lot of RSS feeds that terminate in a page with Flash video, that on my iPod I just have to pretend was not really there. That's going to continue to be the case for some time to come.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:51 AM   #23
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Now, do I notice the lack of Flash support on my iPad2? Not much. Most bank websites have apps already, so I don't need to use the regular website. CBS moved or will be moving to HTML5 as well, if I'm not mistaken.
That's the thing; most sites which are "interactive" in some way, and require Flash, now have mobile Apps, so Flash becomes irrelevent to the mobile user. Eg, the BBC News web site uses Flash for its video clips, and hence can't play video on my iPhone and iPad, but there's a BBC News App which can.
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That's the thing; most sites which are "interactive" in some way, and require Flash, now have mobile Apps, so Flash becomes irrelevent to the mobile user. Eg, the BBC News web site uses Flash for its video clips, and hence can't play video on my iPhone and iPad, but there's a BBC News App which can.
And? ... ...

In your opinion, is that good or bad and why ...
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:43 AM   #25
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And? ... ...

In your opinion, is that good or bad and why ...
if the content is available it is not neither of those. It just is a fact like the sky is blue.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:47 AM   #26
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Cobol is dead, but Fortran is doing just fine, with the latest Fotran 2008 approved just one year ago. (yep, 2008 was approved on 2010 )
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:21 AM   #27
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Cobol is dead, but Fortran is doing just fine, with the latest Fotran 2008 approved just one year ago. (yep, 2008 was approved on 2010 )
COBOL most certainly is not dead. The company I work for does a very significant amount of business in supporting legacy COBOL applications running on mainframe computers. Moreover, we're contractually committed to continuing to provide that support until 2020 as a minimum, and nobody thinks it's actually going to stop then .

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Last I checked, I'm not dead! I am a COBOL developer and there are hundreds of us at my company. I used to work for the State of New Jersey, and there were a lot more there. Very large systems that have a lot of data tend to be mainframe and COBOL because they have been around so long - it's too expensive to rewrite everything.
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I like having Flash on my Xoom. There is still plenty of video that requires this, and I subscribe to a lot of RSS feeds that terminate in a page with Flash video, that on my iPod I just have to pretend was not really there. That's going to continue to be the case for some time to come.
I would miss flash on my Atrix if I didn't have it. A lot of websites still have it and I don't like mobile apps or the mobile view on the browser - they tend to have way less content.

Also, if it wasn't for flash, my husband wouldn't have been able to see and hear the penguins farting happy birthday on the card I sent him!
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That's the thing; most sites which are "interactive" in some way, and require Flash, now have mobile Apps, so Flash becomes irrelevent to the mobile user. Eg, the BBC News web site uses Flash for its video clips, and hence can't play video on my iPhone and iPad, but there's a BBC News App which can.
It's not anywhere near most, in fact, it's not even in the same galaxy as most. Besides that, why would I want a separate app for each and every interactive web site that I visit? What a massive waste of time, money and bandwidth, besides being a total pain in the backside.

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