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Bookworm_Girl · 10-06-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jane12

How are the sorting options on the T1? Any good?
Can you change the default, or does it always revert to the date added like on the PRS-x50s?
Also, is there a manual sorting option that lets you put books in whatever personal order you like? (I know you can do this with Reader Library software -- I'm hoping you can now do it directly on the T1 or at least via the new Reader for PC/Mac software.
Thanks in advance!

The T1 will sort collections by date, title, author and filename. Unfortunately (and one of my biggest complaints), the new Reader software no longer allows you to manually order the items in your collections. A big disappointment to me! You can't drag and drop in the list and the order number column is missing in the software list.

Shopaholic · 10-06-2011, 03:25 PM

I took it back out of the box.

I loaded everything with partial sync and played around. If I do selective sync by choosing say 5 books only those 5 books go on the reader. Now if I go back to add more 6 - 10 then it adds the new ones but deletes the first 5 I put on it.

I'm playing around with the collections. The only way I can figure out so far to put them on is on the reader itself. Ok now I have 380 books on it that I have to manually sort. Delete the ones I don't need and put the others in collections created on the reader. It crashes!

The reader itself crashes. Ok so don't select 20+ books to delete or move. I go for 10 or less it still crashes. I get a message on the reader saying something to the effect of The Application Content Manager has stopped working. lol no kidding! and then I have to force close it.

I agree with what you said somewhere else Bookworm Girl, a new user may really like it but if you have a large collection of books and I know some folks have way more than 400, it's a bit of a nightmare. Unless you want to sync everything you own of course.

I want to give it more time. Wait for my temper tantrum to pass & see what others are doing but I'm really leaning to not liking this thing. I don't really need 2 Sony's so if I have to choose, I'll stick with the 350. I *want* to like it but I'm just not feeling it right now.

Does anybody know how to drag & drop books onto this thing? Is it possible to D&D a whole collection? Anybody know?

Kolenka · 10-06-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shopaholic

Does anybody know how to drag & drop books onto this thing? Is it possible to D&D a whole collection? Anybody know?

Drag-and-drop only seems to work with the older software, or Windows Explorer / Finder / What Have You. It won't copy collections. This is something that Calibre does better than even Sony IMO (auto-generated collections).

trevgriff · 10-06-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolenka

Drag-and-drop only seems to work with the older software, or Windows Explorer / Finder / What Have You. It won't copy collections. This is something that Calibre does better than even Sony IMO (auto-generated collections).

Can Calibre auto generate collections on the T1?

Kolenka · 10-06-2011, 04:13 PM

Not yet... a new driver has to be written, but can be done. You can see the thread I kinda hijacked a bit on the subject in the Calibre devices forum. It'll take a bit of time, but I've got a rough driver in the works.

trevgriff · 10-06-2011, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolenka

Not yet... a new driver has to be written, but can be done. You can see the thread I kinda hijacked a bit on the subject in the Calibre devices forum. It'll take a bit of time, but I've got a rough driver in the works.

That's great thank you.

Jane12 · 10-06-2011, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bookworm_Girl

The T1 will sort collections by date, title, author and filename. Unfortunately (and one of my biggest complaints), the new Reader software no longer allows you to manually order the items in your collections. A big disappointment to me! You can't drag and drop in the list and the order number column is missing in the software list.

Thanks Bookworm_Girl!

The lack of manual ordering is indeed disappointing. Plus, from this and other threads, it sounds like managing book collections on the T1 is problematic at best.

If you change how a collection is sorted -- for example, from "by added order" to "by author" -- will it stay that way going forward? Or does it revert to "by added order" like it does on the PRS-x50s?

jackie_w · 10-06-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jane12

Thanks Bookworm_Girl!
... it sounds like managing book collections on the T1 ... is problematic at best. Hmmmm ...

If the Calibre developers are eventually able to get the T1 integrated as well as they managed to do for all previous Sony models, then no first-time Sony buyer will need to be worried about Collection support or sequencing of books. Calibre does a brilliant job with my 505 and is even better with my 650.

Bookworm_Girl · 10-06-2011, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane12

If you change how a collection is sorted -- for example, from date added to author -- will it stay that way going forward? Or does it revert to date-added order like it does on the PRS-x50s?

I'm not sure what you mean by "going forward". When does it change with the other models? I've only ever sorted my collections by order with my older ereader models.

Jane12 · 10-06-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bookworm_Girl

I'm not sure what you mean by "going forward". When does it change with the other models? I've only ever sorted my collections by order with my older ereader models.

My 350 always defaults the sorting to "by added order." If I'm looking at a collection on my 350 and change "by added order" to "by title" or "by author," etc., it will do that, but only temporarily. If I leave the screen and come back to it later, it defaults to "by added order" again. (Note: This only happens when I'm looking inside a collection. When I'm looking at all the books on my reader, the selected sorting sticks.)

So I'm wondering what the default sort order is on the T1, and if you change it to something else, will it stay that way the next time you go back to the collection, or does it default to the same Sony-selected sort order every time?

Thanks!

Shopaholic · 10-06-2011, 11:43 PM

Hi Jane! The default sort seems to be Added Order but I am pleased to say when you change it to something else, it will 'stick' to your selection. Yay!!

You have the choice of:
Added Order
Date
Title
Author
File Name

Hope that helps.

Jane12 · 10-07-2011, 12:05 AM

Ditto on the Yay! Yes, that helps. Thanks Shopaholic!

Merbear · 10-07-2011, 04:29 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one with problem with new software but thanks to your help I no longer need it! Calibre is handling my collections just fine. I love how it handles all the different readers...I have the prs650 and also take care of my sister's Prs600, my husband's Kobo touch and my son and daughter's original Kobos so it's really convenient using one program for all!

sabredog · 10-08-2011, 12:53 AM

That sounds much like me

Sony PRS-300 x 2, PRS-650, Kobo and a Kindle 3 now

Calibre handles it all with consummate ease.

Looking forward to the new T1 driver as my T1 is on its way.

Jane12 · 10-08-2011, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bookworm_Girl

The T1 will sort collections by date, title, author and filename. Unfortunately (and one of my biggest complaints), the new Reader software no longer allows you to manually order the items in your collections. A big disappointment to me! You can't drag and drop in the list and the order number column is missing in the software list.

Here's a possible workaround: Add numbers to your filenames in the order that you want the books to appear, then sort "by filename."

Example:

01-First_Book_in_Series
02-Second_Book_in_Series
03-Third_Book_in_Series

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10-06-2011, 03:25 PM	#32
Shopaholic Cockatoo Mom! Posts: 1,509 Karma: 1841741 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: PW4, Kobo: A1, Clara, Libra 2, iPad Pro 11, iPad Mini	I took it back out of the box. I loaded everything with partial sync and played around. If I do selective sync by choosing say 5 books only those 5 books go on the reader. Now if I go back to add more 6 - 10 then it adds the new ones but deletes the first 5 I put on it. I'm playing around with the collections. The only way I can figure out so far to put them on is on the reader itself. Ok now I have 380 books on it that I have to manually sort. Delete the ones I don't need and put the others in collections created on the reader. It crashes! The reader itself crashes. Ok so don't select 20+ books to delete or move. I go for 10 or less it still crashes. I get a message on the reader saying something to the effect of The Application Content Manager has stopped working. lol no kidding! and then I have to force close it. I agree with what you said somewhere else Bookworm Girl, a new user may really like it but if you have a large collection of books and I know some folks have way more than 400, it's a bit of a nightmare. Unless you want to sync everything you own of course. I want to give it more time. Wait for my temper tantrum to pass & see what others are doing but I'm really leaning to not liking this thing. I don't really need 2 Sony's so if I have to choose, I'll stick with the 350. I want to like it but I'm just not feeling it right now. Does anybody know how to drag & drop books onto this thing? Is it possible to D&D a whole collection? Anybody know?

10-06-2011, 04:13 PM	#35
Kolenka <Insert Wit Here> Posts: 1,017 Karma: 1275899 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Puget Sound Device: Kindle Oasis, Kobo Forma	Not yet... a new driver has to be written, but can be done. You can see the thread I kinda hijacked a bit on the subject in the Calibre devices forum. It'll take a bit of time, but I've got a rough driver in the works.

10-06-2011, 11:43 PM	#41
Shopaholic Cockatoo Mom! Posts: 1,509 Karma: 1841741 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: PW4, Kobo: A1, Clara, Libra 2, iPad Pro 11, iPad Mini	Hi Jane! The default sort seems to be Added Order but I am pleased to say when you change it to something else, it will 'stick' to your selection. Yay!! You have the choice of: Added Order Date Title Author File Name Hope that helps.

10-07-2011, 12:05 AM	#42
Jane12 Groupie Posts: 171 Karma: 1706300 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: iDevices	Ditto on the Yay! Yes, that helps. Thanks Shopaholic!

10-07-2011, 04:29 PM	#43
Merbear Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 67710 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ontario Device: PRS-600 & Kobo & PRS-650, iTouch and iPad2	I'm glad I'm not the only one with problem with new software but thanks to your help I no longer need it! Calibre is handling my collections just fine. I love how it handles all the different readers...I have the prs650 and also take care of my sister's Prs600, my husband's Kobo touch and my son and daughter's original Kobos so it's really convenient using one program for all!

10-08-2011, 12:53 AM	#44
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	That sounds much like me Sony PRS-300 x 2, PRS-650, Kobo and a Kindle 3 now Calibre handles it all with consummate ease. Looking forward to the new T1 driver as my T1 is on its way.