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Old 10-06-2011, 11:49 AM   #76
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The tech world has lost a visionary. RIP, Steve.
I'm not sure how visionary he was, espectially toward the end, but he did have a knack for giving a needed boost to under-valued technologies while also helping satisfy some of his longest-standing customer desires. Who had heard of USB before the original Bondi Blue iMac? Who would've thought a UNIX-based OS would make its way into the mainstream?
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No matter what your personal feelings might be about Mr. Jobs, he has been one of the most influential figures in the computer industry, and, with products like the iPod and iPad, has transformed the lives of millions. I am saddened that all you can find it within yourself to say about his death is "Does that now mean that there's a market for e-books now?" His life's achievements should mean more than that - even to you.
Harry, I was more saddened back when Gary Kildall was stomped to death as an alcoholic in a biker bar, years ago, with hardly a person knowing or caring. I doubt if even 3 people on this thread knew who he was or why he had been important.

I was more saddened by the passing of Michael Hart, who not only had a massive impact on the reading world - (look at this site, for example). And he created the concept of the e-book. And look where it's run to. And will run long after he's forgotten.

Am I saddened by Steve Jobs death? I am saddened by any person's death. But I don't consider him the great creator that everybody here seems to think he was. Great marketer, yes. Creator, no.

My comment was to remind everyone that this was the same person who a few years ago, publicly sneered at the concept of pleasure reading.

He was a man, not a demi-god.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:09 PM   #78
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Have to chime in and agree Ralph Sir Edward... "a great Marketer Yes, a great Creater NO"... Seems the Crapple fans get these two ideas mixed up amid the crocodiile tears...

Nothing like a death in the Anglophile world to make itself seem like the center of the Earth..

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Old 10-06-2011, 12:09 PM   #79
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This is of course true, but I would question whether those products would have existed without Mr. Jobs's visionary leadership at the helm of the company.
Could be; but then we could've had different products equally as good. We'll never know. He was an effective leader.
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There's not a single person on this planet who has had such an incredible influence on the direction that personal computing and digital technology has taken within the last 40 years. From the original Apple, to the Mac, to the iMac, OS X, iTunes, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc., no other person has had such a long ranging reach into technology. His vision will continue to influence the direction of computing for years to come. RIP Steve.
Maybe you should create a small temple and worship him. I am sure he will increase the speed of all your CPUs....
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:17 PM   #81
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This is of course true, but I would question whether those products would have existed without Mr. Jobs's visionary leadership at the helm of the company.
I call a Crock on that. It's the old addage that without the Elvis and the Beetles Rock would never have been the same. Well, Some other group/ individual would have stepped up and done amazing things as well in Music and so would someone in the IT industry... Steve Jobs was human.. Not Poseidon. He defecated everyday. He was a great markerer, control freak and good at taking allready exsisting technologies and making the "masses" embrace products in droves...... At least he was better at designing products than Amazon has been (until this Autumn).

But.. people seem to forget... the hundreds or thousands that helped make Apple successful...
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Maybe you should create a small temple and worship him. I am sure he will increase the speed of all your CPUs....
Why such a snotty response? Show some respect, if not for Mr. Jobs (which from your previous postings its obvious you have none), than at least for other posters here who are showing their respects.
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Why such a snotty response? Show some respect, if not for Mr. Jobs (which from your previous postings its obvious you have none), than at least for other posters here who are showing their respects.
As you wish Master
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:24 PM   #84
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I call a Crock on that....

But.. people seem to forget... the hundreds or thousands that helped make Apple successful...
Well you and Ralph can whine and cry at the injustice all you want, but you are wrong. As I said I have no love for Apple, particularly their business model, but Jobs demonstrated his vision, creativity and leadership in creating innovative, and yes world-changing products in many companies, not just Apple - among them Next and Pixar. He holds over 200 patents in his own name so someone other then fans have recognized his creativity.

Was it more than just him that accomplished this? Absolutely, but he was at the helm leading all of those companies.

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No matter what your personal feelings might be about Mr. Jobs, he has been one of the most influential figures in the computer industry, and, with products like the iPod and iPad, has transformed the lives of millions. I am saddened that all you can find it within yourself to say about his death is "Does that now mean that there's a market for e-books now?" His life's achievements should mean more than that - even to you.
I think you just have to look at the tributes from other successful people in tech and beyond-Google's Sergey Brin & Larry Page, Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, Salesforce's Marc Beniof, Mathematica's Stephen Wolfram VC Fred Wilson, to name just a few, to realize the impact he had on their careers and companies. I think they have a better idea, and a more personal view of what he contributed over the years.

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Old 10-06-2011, 12:27 PM   #86
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UPDATE: It's not actually cool to pretend not to care.

A wise man once said: if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all. It applies best here.



RIP Steve Jobs. He made technology exciting for us; people who don't otherwise care! <3
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What benifit does it bring to crap on the memories of a dead man? Why not let those who feel a loss grieve it? This thread was to report his death. Others like myself felt the need to say goodbye. That's it. I would hope that those of you choosing to jump all over this with insults and negativity receive a litte more grace at your time of passing.
I was neither a fan nor foe of Steve Jobs personally, but I acknowledge the positives his work brought into my life and I wish him Rest In Peace after a long fought battle with a terrible disease!
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Maybe you should create a small temple and worship him. I am sure he will increase the speed of all your CPUs....
Steve Jobs didn't die. He was just backed up to the great Time Capsule in the sky.
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well stated Kennyc. At least you gave some definitive examples.. whining in your view..just giving an opinion in mine. I am sure most are against it ..but so be it..
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Best answer yet..I am sure him, Elvis, Osama, and Howard Hughes are dropping LSD somewhere in the Milkyway...
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