Amazon Announces 4 New Kindle devices... - Page 20

Zatakawa · 09-29-2011, 12:22 PM

I wonder if the quality of the K4 e-ink display has any advantages over the current K3 displays. All i know is that page turns are faster than on K3.

jersysman · 09-29-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kjk

Not really with today's devices. Most people I know don't shut off their LCD devices ever-they just go into standby mode, and last for weeks until you actually use them again.

That is quite true, kik. I leave my NC in Standby mode when I am not using it and the battery lasts for weeks. This was even with WiFi on. Of course, I'm not getting any reading done either.

When I do go back to using it, I've always had enough battery to let me get in some reading.

texasnightowl · 09-29-2011, 12:34 PM

Finally made up my mind...didn't really *need* a new Kindle as my K1 still works fine, but the hype made me anxious to upgrade. I've ordered the KKSO/WiFi aka Kindle Keyboard Special Offers WiFi version. And as a Prime member, Amazon says I'll get it via Saturday delivery, so we'll see. As soon as it arrives I'll take advantage of one of the special offers for 40% off a case. So that will save money right away! Plus I have 2 colleagues at work interested in giving me a few bucks for my K1.

Dulin's Books · 09-29-2011, 12:35 PM

i didnt say stand by. i said on.

howyoudoin · 09-29-2011, 12:35 PM

I think we're all ignoring the most important question in the discussion about the new kindles.

What are the new screensavers like?

Is Emily Dickinson still there? What about Charlotte Bronte? She was a babe, IMO.

kjk · 09-29-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

i didnt say stand by. i said on.

What's the real difference though? Tablets are a click or two away from full on from standby now. How long does a Nook Color take to go from standby to on?

pdurrant · 09-29-2011, 01:16 PM

Even with all these models, Amazon still hasn't got my ideal device (ideal with currently shipping technology, anyway).

I like physical buttons for next/previous page. Touch is great for selecting things on the screen. Using it for simple next/previous is a terrible idea.

I like the low-end Kindle. I like the Kindle Touch. But what I want is the Kindle Touch with the low-end Kindle's next/previous page buttons!

Rizla · 09-29-2011, 01:17 PM

According to this site: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/09...from-the-nook/
visually the case is not as ugly as I thought, though I'm still not crazy about it.

I haven't done the math, but it seems outside the USA, because of the lack of an ad version, the Kindle will be comparable in price to the Sony T1.

But no buttons is a massive mistake. I wonder how the price compares to the Nook? The Nook has buttons and is Android...

Outside the USA, the Sony is looking nicer. Again, buttons, and it is also probably Android.

What were Amazon thinking not including basic buttons on the touch? They clearly don't read or listen to the users on the Amazon section of these boards.

Sure, it'll sell because it's Amazon and it has the Amazon store, but it's fallen behind the competition hardware-wise.

Dulin's Books · 09-29-2011, 01:23 PM

we're talking about battery life. if you want to put the tablet in sleep/stand by then go ahead. but then the reader has to be put in sleep/standby as well.

but the concern was that at 15 hours of reading time there isnt really much advantage in the eink display over the rival lcd device that can go 12 hours.

to test that you need to test two devices in a simliar state with similar batteries. if you want to test them in stand by, fine.

by if you just test them "on" and wait til the end of the day you will get your answer much quicker than putting them in standby.

the reality is that an ink display device will last twice as long or more with half the battery of the lcd device because just sitting there "on the eink display is using no power while the lcd display- even the best most eifficient non-bistable lcd- is constantly refreshing and drawing power.

its like saying car A with a 5 gallon tank doesnt get any better gas mileage than car B with a 10 gallon tank because they can both go 300 miles on a tank. comparing how far they each go on a tank without knowing how much each tank holds is not actually comparing the efficiency .

DiapDealer · 09-29-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

I like the low-end Kindle. I like the Kindle Touch. But what I want is the Kindle Touch with the low-end Kindle's next/previous page buttons!

Ditto... except I'd also like it to have the overall width/height of the Keyboard Kindle (the Kindle formerly known as 3). The new hobbit Kindles are cute, but....

carld · 09-29-2011, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

Even with all these models, Amazon still hasn't got my ideal device (ideal with currently shipping technology, anyway).

I like physical buttons for next/previous page. Touch is great for selecting things on the screen. Using it for simple next/previous is a terrible idea.

I like the low-end Kindle. I like the Kindle Touch. But what I want is the Kindle Touch with the low-end Kindle's next/previous page buttons!

That's exactly what I wanted too. Take the K3, remove the keyboard (assuming we're going touch), but keep the graphite case and side turn buttons, and update the firmware. Now that would be a perfect device for me.

treadlightly · 09-29-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

That's exactly what I wanted too. Take the K3, remove the keyboard (assuming we're going touch), but keep the graphite case and side turn buttons, and update the firmware. Now that would be a perfect device for me.

Me too. It sounds like a lot of us think the same way. Hopefully someone listens.

Nyssa · 09-29-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

That's exactly what I wanted too. Take the K3, remove the keyboard (assuming we're going touch), but keep the graphite case and side turn buttons, and update the firmware. Now that would be a perfect device for me.

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Originally Posted by treadlightly

Me too. It sounds like a lot of us think the same way. Hopefully someone listens.

Well, they'll need something new to release next year, so...

afv011 · 09-29-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

That's exactly what I wanted too. Take the K3, remove the keyboard (assuming we're going touch), but keep the graphite case and side turn buttons, and update the firmware. Now that would be a perfect device for me.

Sounds like you guys want a nook touch

storm9 · 09-29-2011, 02:07 PM

Which version of the android OS is the Kindle Fire using?

09-29-2011, 01:23 PM	#294
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	we're talking about battery life. if you want to put the tablet in sleep/stand by then go ahead. but then the reader has to be put in sleep/standby as well. but the concern was that at 15 hours of reading time there isnt really much advantage in the eink display over the rival lcd device that can go 12 hours. to test that you need to test two devices in a simliar state with similar batteries. if you want to test them in stand by, fine. by if you just test them "on" and wait til the end of the day you will get your answer much quicker than putting them in standby. the reality is that an ink display device will last twice as long or more with half the battery of the lcd device because just sitting there "on the eink display is using no power while the lcd display- even the best most eifficient non-bistable lcd- is constantly refreshing and drawing power. its like saying car A with a 5 gallon tank doesnt get any better gas mileage than car B with a 10 gallon tank because they can both go 300 miles on a tank. comparing how far they each go on a tank without knowing how much each tank holds is not actually comparing the efficiency . Last edited by Dulin's Books; 09-29-2011 at 01:29 PM.

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09-29-2011, 12:22 PM	#286
Zatakawa Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 500222 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: none	I wonder if the quality of the K4 e-ink display has any advantages over the current K3 displays. All i know is that page turns are faster than on K3.

09-29-2011, 12:34 PM	#288
texasnightowl Guru Posts: 797 Karma: 2873645 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Device: PW5, Oasis 3, K4B(NT), K3/KK	Finally made up my mind...didn't really need a new Kindle as my K1 still works fine, but the hype made me anxious to upgrade. I've ordered the KKSO/WiFi aka Kindle Keyboard Special Offers WiFi version. And as a Prime member, Amazon says I'll get it via Saturday delivery, so we'll see. As soon as it arrives I'll take advantage of one of the special offers for 40% off a case. So that will save money right away! Plus I have 2 colleagues at work interested in giving me a few bucks for my K1.

09-29-2011, 12:35 PM	#289
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	i didnt say stand by. i said on.

09-29-2011, 12:35 PM	#290
howyoudoin how YOU doin? Posts: 1,100 Karma: 7371047 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: India Device: Kindle Keyboard, iPad Pro 10.5”, Kobo Aura H2O, Kobo Libra 2	I think we're all ignoring the most important question in the discussion about the new kindles. What are the new screensavers like? Is Emily Dickinson still there? What about Charlotte Bronte? She was a babe, IMO.

09-29-2011, 01:16 PM	#292
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 74,064 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	Even with all these models, Amazon still hasn't got my ideal device (ideal with currently shipping technology, anyway). I like physical buttons for next/previous page. Touch is great for selecting things on the screen. Using it for simple next/previous is a terrible idea. I like the low-end Kindle. I like the Kindle Touch. But what I want is the Kindle Touch with the low-end Kindle's next/previous page buttons!

09-29-2011, 01:17 PM	#293
Rizla Member Retired Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2	According to this site: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/09...from-the-nook/ visually the case is not as ugly as I thought, though I'm still not crazy about it. I haven't done the math, but it seems outside the USA, because of the lack of an ad version, the Kindle will be comparable in price to the Sony T1. But no buttons is a massive mistake. I wonder how the price compares to the Nook? The Nook has buttons and is Android... Outside the USA, the Sony is looking nicer. Again, buttons, and it is also probably Android. What were Amazon thinking not including basic buttons on the touch? They clearly don't read or listen to the users on the Amazon section of these boards. Sure, it'll sell because it's Amazon and it has the Amazon store, but it's fallen behind the competition hardware-wise.

09-29-2011, 02:07 PM	#300
storm9 Member Posts: 12 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: none	Which version of the android OS is the Kindle Fire using?