MobileRead Forums
Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > News
Reload this Page Amazon is nobody's friend

Notices

Reply
Page 12 of 22 « First 891011 12 13141516 Last »
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-24-2011, 03:59 PM   #166
slowly
Junior Member
slowly began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 1
Karma: 10
Join Date: Oct 2009
Device: kindledx
I have to agree with you
slowly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 04:14 PM   #167
Vic333
Connoisseur
Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Vic333 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 57
Karma: 500240
Join Date: Jan 2011
Device: Kindle Paperwhite
Of course they're nobody's friend. They're a business. The only entity that thinks that businesses are people is the US Supreme Court.
Vic333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 04:17 PM   #168
replica145
Bake 'Em Away Toys
replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.replica145 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
replica145's Avatar
 
Posts: 210
Karma: 1271856
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Dirty Jersey
Device: Kindle PW (Books) & iPad 3 (Comics)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic333 View Post
Of course they're nobody's friend. They're a business. The only entity that thinks that businesses are people is the US Supreme Court.
And Mitt Romney!
replica145 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:03 PM   #169
Sil_liS
Wizard
Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,896
Karma: 33602910
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+
Quote:
Originally Posted by pidgeon92 View Post
If I recall correctly, the book was in the $5-$10 range, and they gave customers back $30. More than fair.
They were sued by a high school student that lost his notes. They had to pay $150k. Compare that to $30. It's not about fair, they wanted to avoid getting sued.
Sil_liS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:08 PM   #170
cHex
Zealot
cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.cHex ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 127
Karma: 2843950
Join Date: Sep 2011
Device: Kindle Keyboard (K3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip Wyona View Post
I would like Amazon even better however if Amazon did not have unfair advantages in what is supposed to be a free market. Can there be no doubt that Amazon gets a free ride to the detriment of brick and mortar stores? Should not buyers have to pay sales tax for example as they must for most other purchases?
First, in what sense is Amazon's advantage "unfair?" Brick-and-mortar bookstores have no legal barrier to adopting Amazon's business model.

Second, what do you mean by "free ride" to the detriment of brick and mortar stores? Surely Amazon owns or rents vast warehouses, data centers, shipping centers, office blocks, etc.; and surely those other bookstores can shut down their storefronts and, again, adopt Amazon's model.

I agree that Amazon has chosen a different model than those electing to operate brick and mortar bookstores; however, there are advantages to either model. I enjoy shopping at Amazon, I enjoy shopping at the paperback exchange down the street, and I still enjoy shopping at Barnes and Noble.

Third, just because Amazon is not required to figure and collect taxes for people from certain states does not mean those people are not required to pay the taxes, nor is Amazon thereby enjoying an unfair advantage. If people elect not to report those purchases and not to pay those taxes, that is on them and not on Amazon. Amazon is literally one of tens of thousands of corporations legally not collecting sales taxes from out-of-state customers--including brick and mortar bookstores shipping orders to customers in other states. This is nothing new, and merchants have been operating under this system for many many years, going back to our great-grandparents' purchases from the Sears and Roebuck catalog.
cHex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:09 PM   #171
Sil_liS
Wizard
Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,896
Karma: 33602910
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyssa View Post
I find it interesting that so many people consider Amazon a monopoly. I have yet to find anything on Amazon that I could not find elsewhere if I looked hard enough. They just happen to make most things easier to find.
They are working on exclusive publishing deals. For example:
Quote:
Lynch noted that “we will not stock physical books in our stores if we are not offered the available digital format. In recent instances, Amazon’s exclusive publisher deals have prohibited Barnes & Noble from selling certain e-books.”
Sil_liS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:14 PM   #172
DiapDealer
Grand Sorcerer
DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DiapDealer's Avatar
 
Posts: 28,880
Karma: 207000000
Join Date: Jan 2010
Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD
Quote:
Lynch noted that “we will not stock physical books in our stores if we are not offered the available digital format. In recent instances, Amazon’s exclusive publisher deals have prohibited Barnes & Noble from selling certain e-books.”
I'm not sure how that relates to antitrust laws and monopolies. Is McDonalds a monopoly because they're the only ones allowed to sell Big Macs?
DiapDealer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:17 PM   #173
anamardoll
Chasing Butterflies
anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.anamardoll ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
anamardoll's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,132
Karma: 5074169
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: American Southwest
Device: Uses batteries.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiapDealer View Post
I'm not sure how that relates to antitrust laws and monopolies. Is McDonalds a monopoly because they're the only ones allowed to sell Big Macs?
Analogy Police!

I'm not convinced that hamburgers are comparable in the same way that books and artistic works are comparable.
anamardoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:31 PM   #174
Nyssa
Series Addict
Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nyssa's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,180
Karma: 167189477
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Florida, USA
Device: Kindle Paperwhite (2nd Gen)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sil_liS View Post
They are working on exclusive publishing deals. For example:
Umm if an author chooses to use a certain publisher then they have to follow said publishers rules. Authors can choose not to sign with Amazon if they are unhappy with Amazon's rules.

B&N is doing exactly what it feels it needs to do in order to stay competitive. "Give us all or nothing". That puts the ball in Amazon's court as to whether or not they want to compromise w/ B&N's rules.

Plus, there's nothing (except cash) stopping B&N from doing the exact same thing. In a way, they already have..they have their own line of public domain books. Sure you can get other copies from other places, but they will not have the B&N touch.

In the end, everyone still has a choice.
Nyssa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:39 PM   #175
BenG
Home Guard
BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
BenG's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,730
Karma: 86721650
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Alpha Ralpha Boulevard
Device: Kindle Oasis 3G, iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiapDealer View Post
I'm not sure how that relates to antitrust laws and monopolies. Is McDonalds a monopoly because they're the only ones allowed to sell Big Macs?
You could sell a hamburger exactly like a Big Mac. You just can't call it a Big Mac.
BenG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 05:48 PM   #176
Sil_liS
Wizard
Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Sil_liS ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,896
Karma: 33602910
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyssa View Post
Umm if an author chooses to use a certain publisher then they have to follow said publishers rules. Authors can choose not to sign with Amazon if they are unhappy with Amazon's rules.
I'm not talking about that. What I replied to was:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyssa View Post
I find it interesting that so many people consider Amazon a monopoly. I have yet to find anything on Amazon that I could not find elsewhere if I looked hard enough. They just happen to make most things easier to find.
Did you find ebooks that were published exclusively by Amazon on sites of other distributors?
Sil_liS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 06:01 PM   #177
Nyssa
Series Addict
Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nyssa ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nyssa's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,180
Karma: 167189477
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Florida, USA
Device: Kindle Paperwhite (2nd Gen)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sil_liS View Post
I'm not talking about that. What I replied to was:

Did you find ebooks that were published exclusively by Amazon on sites of other distributors?
I don't know of any titles exclusively published by Amazon. If there are titles that were exclusively published by Amazon then it was the author or holder of the book rights who chose to exclusively publish with Amazon. That was their choice. They didn't have to work with Amazon. They could have gone elsewhere. That is my point. In no way is Amazon, the company, a monopoly, because people have choices.

The definition of a monopoly is a lack of choice. As long as people can chose a competitor there is no monopoly.
Nyssa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 06:12 PM   #178
DiapDealer
Grand Sorcerer
DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DiapDealer's Avatar
 
Posts: 28,880
Karma: 207000000
Join Date: Jan 2010
Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by anamardoll View Post
Analogy Police!

I'm not convinced that hamburgers are comparable in the same way that books and artistic works are comparable.
I know, I know... I broke my own self-imposed analogy rule. Sue me.
But all this silly talk of monopoly just got the better of me.
DiapDealer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 06:40 PM   #179
OtterBooks
Wizard
OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.OtterBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
OtterBooks's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,262
Karma: 2979086
Join Date: Nov 2010
Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiapDealer View Post
I know, I know... I broke my own self-imposed analogy rule. Sue me.
But all this silly talk of monopoly just got the better of me.

If a guy who owns a chicken farm leaves the gate open, and chickens escape, is that also breaking his own rules?
OtterBooks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 06:43 PM   #180
DiapDealer
Grand Sorcerer
DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DiapDealer ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DiapDealer's Avatar
 
Posts: 28,880
Karma: 207000000
Join Date: Jan 2010
Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by OtterBooks View Post
If a guy who owns a chicken farm leaves the gate open, and chickens escape, is that also breaking his own rules?
Were the chickens clearly informed beforehand that they weren't to leave the enclosure? And was there a capon in the group?
DiapDealer is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 12 of 22 « First 891011 12 13141516 Last »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Romance Oppenheim, E. Phillips: Nobody's Man. V1. 4 Sep 2011 crutledge Kindle Books 0 09-04-2011 07:35 AM
Romance Oppenheim, E. Phillips: Nobody's Man. V1. 4 Sep 2011 crutledge ePub Books 0 09-04-2011 07:33 AM
Romance Oppenheim, E. Phillips: Nobody's Man. V1. 4 Sep 2011 crutledge BBeB/LRF Books 0 09-04-2011 07:32 AM
Other Fiction Malot, Hector: Nobody's Boy (Sans Famille) Sonist ePub Books 2 10-31-2008 05:24 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:50 AM.

Contact Us - FAQ - Guidelines - Privacy - Top

MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.