Publisher pirates their own books

mr ploppy · 07-24-2011, 10:37 AM

Can't give you a URL, but here's the text:

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Hi everyone, I work with Eraserhead/Deadite Press (the publisher of many of the books on this thread). We just recently found this site and we surprised to find many of our books up here. Thank you everyone! Sharing books like this really does a lot to help independent artists. Keep posting them and keep passing them around!

For a thank you gift, here's some more bizarro books!

HarryT · 07-24-2011, 10:41 AM

I'm a little confused. If their books are here on MobileRead, they must be here legally. If you know of any books which are not here legally, please let us know and we'll remove them immediately.

mr ploppy · 07-24-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I'm a little confused. If their books are here on MobileRead, they must be here legally. If you know of any books which are not here legally, please let us know and we'll remove them immediately.

I didn't see them here, I saw them somewhere I distribute my short stories

MmavisO · 07-24-2011, 11:03 AM

I think he means he found that posted somewhere else--he can't provide the url because it links to pirated materials. The posting seems to say that the publisher is all for it, however.

MmavisO · 07-24-2011, 11:04 AM

lol mr ploppy was too quick for me!

HarryT · 07-24-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mr ploppy

I didn't see them here, I saw them somewhere I distribute my short stories

Now I understand. Thanks for the clarification

.

OtterBooks · 07-24-2011, 01:13 PM

"we surprised to find many of our books up here."

Mike L · 07-24-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MmavisO

... links to pirated materials. The posting seems to say that the publisher is all for it, however.

Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but are we sure the posting was genuinely from the publishers?

mr ploppy · 07-24-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike L

Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but are we sure the posting was genuinely from the publishers?

You could always email the publsher and ask, but I can't really see any benefit in pretending.

Giggleton · 07-24-2011, 03:06 PM

"Idea" Piracy is in the mind of the beholder.

xg4bx · 07-25-2011, 12:33 AM

I'm....familiar with the site where that was posted. It seems legit, the poster also had news regarding upcoming authors on their roster and whatnot.

I think it's very cool of them. According to the poster in question the book postings came with the blessings of the author so there weren't any shenanigans going on.

IMO this is really no different than Baen's free library or even bands who hand out their cd outside of concerts. Eraserhead is a pretty niche publisher of bizarro and extreme horror and most of their authors seem to come from the northwest "punk"/underground scene so this is probably right in line with their political beliefs lol. It's also pretty much how bands work these days: post their music on youtube or facebook and build an audience through sharing and word of mouth.

The only caveat that was given was "hey, we don't mind if you dl our stuff, just please post a review on amazon". There have been a few other authors that gave the same stipulation.

I downloaded one of the books and in fact posted a review of it on amazon. I think that's a fair exchange for the posters generosity. I have also purchased several books from this publisher in the past and will buy more in the future because the poster was cool.

karunaji · 07-25-2011, 02:02 AM

Lately the amount of trash on Amazon has increased so much that I am rarely going to shop for new books there. I simply don't have time to go through inflated reviews and everything.

Piracy sites, however, are pickier about what works they accept. Only most popular books are included and there is lower risk of disappointment. And if I like the book I can buy it on Amazon later. If guess that from publisher's point of view appearance of their books on piracy sites is a good thing as it means that people appreciate them enough to pirate and in turn pirating will increase their popularity even more. Whereas on Amazon or other retailers websites they would be lost among thousands of mediocre works.

SylvieB1984 · 07-25-2011, 04:40 AM

this is an interesting thread, I am looking forward to reading more information and thoughts.

Dimwit · 07-25-2011, 06:18 AM

It's not PIRACY! If it's posted by the author or publisher it's free. It has become marketing, not anything to do with piracy.

Please people, use your words carefully.

hidari · 07-25-2011, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimwit

It's not PIRACY! If it's posted by the author or publisher it's free. It has become marketing, not anything to do with piracy.

Please people, use your words carefully.

People, people .... please don't be so anal retentive about what words a person chose to use. Context clearly shows what the writer meant. Hello linguistics...

07-25-2011, 12:33 AM	#11
xg4bx Are you gonna eat that? Posts: 1,633 Karma: 23215128 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ Device: Kindle 3, Nook STG	I'm....familiar with the site where that was posted. It seems legit, the poster also had news regarding upcoming authors on their roster and whatnot. I think it's very cool of them. According to the poster in question the book postings came with the blessings of the author so there weren't any shenanigans going on. IMO this is really no different than Baen's free library or even bands who hand out their cd outside of concerts. Eraserhead is a pretty niche publisher of bizarro and extreme horror and most of their authors seem to come from the northwest "punk"/underground scene so this is probably right in line with their political beliefs lol. It's also pretty much how bands work these days: post their music on youtube or facebook and build an audience through sharing and word of mouth. The only caveat that was given was "hey, we don't mind if you dl our stuff, just please post a review on amazon". There have been a few other authors that gave the same stipulation. I downloaded one of the books and in fact posted a review of it on amazon. I think that's a fair exchange for the posters generosity. I have also purchased several books from this publisher in the past and will buy more in the future because the poster was cool. Last edited by xg4bx; 07-25-2011 at 12:38 AM.

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07-24-2011, 10:41 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I'm a little confused. If their books are here on MobileRead, they must be here legally. If you know of any books which are not here legally, please let us know and we'll remove them immediately.

07-24-2011, 11:03 AM	#4
MmavisO Seeker Posts: 349 Karma: 479648 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Liberty, MO USA Device: Asus TF, PB 360, Jetbook Lite	I think he means he found that posted somewhere else--he can't provide the url because it links to pirated materials. The posting seems to say that the publisher is all for it, however.

07-24-2011, 11:04 AM	#5
MmavisO Seeker Posts: 349 Karma: 479648 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Liberty, MO USA Device: Asus TF, PB 360, Jetbook Lite	lol mr ploppy was too quick for me!

07-24-2011, 01:13 PM	#7
OtterBooks Wizard Posts: 1,262 Karma: 2979086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina	"we surprised to find many of our books up here."

07-24-2011, 03:06 PM	#10
Giggleton Banned Posts: 1,687 Karma: 4368191 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oregon Device: Kindle3	"Idea" Piracy is in the mind of the beholder.

07-25-2011, 02:02 AM	#12
karunaji Evangelist Posts: 421 Karma: 1033566 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Latvia Device: Kindle 3 Wifi, Bookeen Opus	Lately the amount of trash on Amazon has increased so much that I am rarely going to shop for new books there. I simply don't have time to go through inflated reviews and everything. Piracy sites, however, are pickier about what works they accept. Only most popular books are included and there is lower risk of disappointment. And if I like the book I can buy it on Amazon later. If guess that from publisher's point of view appearance of their books on piracy sites is a good thing as it means that people appreciate them enough to pirate and in turn pirating will increase their popularity even more. Whereas on Amazon or other retailers websites they would be lost among thousands of mediocre works.

07-25-2011, 04:40 AM	#13
SylvieB1984 Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2011 Device: Kindle	this is an interesting thread, I am looking forward to reading more information and thoughts.

07-25-2011, 06:18 AM	#14
Dimwit Connoisseur Posts: 60 Karma: 12652 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Kobo	It's not PIRACY! If it's posted by the author or publisher it's free. It has become marketing, not anything to do with piracy. Please people, use your words carefully.