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Old 06-30-2011, 04:20 PM   #136
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But that is illegal [not immoral though].
Please stop with stripping DRM is illegal. We've been over there left and right and we don't know if it's illegal in the USA. Please go find the threads that tell you this as I'm not going to rehash this yet again.
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:22 PM   #137
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Please stop with stripping DRM is illegal. We've been over there left and right and we don't know if it's illegal in the USA. Please go find the threads that tell you this as I'm not going to rehash this yet again.
This is a grey area. So I prefer to err on the side of caution when talking in a public forum. Satisfactory?
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:43 PM   #138
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Please stop with stripping DRM is illegal. We've been over there left and right and we don't know if it's illegal in the USA. Please go find the threads that tell you this as I'm not going to rehash this yet again.

I thought he was addressing EowynCarter, who is in Paris, where I'm pretty sure it's decidedly illegal (I think there were protests about it there).
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:47 PM   #139
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This is a grey area. So I prefer to err on the side of caution when talking in a public forum. Satisfactory?
As an aside, while I believe you may be correct in this case, in general, no, not satisfactory. Stating something is illegal when you do not know is not cautious, just wrong.
Caution would be better served by just pointing out that there is concern over the legality in some places.
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:49 PM   #140
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This is a grey area. So I prefer to err on the side of caution when talking in a public forum. Satisfactory?
But by telling people it is illegal, you may possibly be giving them false information and scaring them from doing what they may have the right to do.
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But by telling people it is illegal, you may possibly be giving them false information and scaring them from doing what they may have the right to do.
Hey, there are some things you and I agree on. Who'da thunk it.
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Old 07-03-2011, 04:48 AM   #143
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I thought he was addressing EowynCarter, who is in Paris, where I'm pretty sure it's decidedly illegal (I think there were protests about it there).
Yes, illegal indeed. But i'll be dammed if some DRM prevents me from enjoying MY books.
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:18 AM   #144
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Yes, illegal indeed. But i'll be dammed if some DRM prevents me from enjoying MY books.
Exactly. Which is my I distinguished between legal and moral...
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:17 PM   #145
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ST-One, try Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire instead - that first trilogy he wrote is brilliant, the best you'll find under the Star Wars banner. The trilogy is Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command.
I came away singularly unimpressed with the Zahn trilogy when it was first released (I seem to remember Chewbacca's "dialogue" as a particularly egregious example of poor writing). Thanks for saving me the energy of bothering with anything else that's now in the e-catalog.
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Old 07-08-2011, 10:21 AM   #146
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I'm curious - what were you expecting for dialog from a character that only howls?
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:23 PM   #147
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I remember I liked Zahn's trilogy way back when it first came out, so I am working my way through them again. I am really disappointed with the typos. The first one had a few that could be ignored, but the second book is really bad. I'm only about 1/3 of the way through the second book, but every time the word 'kind' has been replaced with the word 'land'. And occasionally the word 'the' has been replaced with the word 'die'. And there have been several other GLARING typos. I paid $7.99 for something they couldn't even bother to proofread? I guess I will go back to the inexpensive indie books; I am a lot more forgiving of the occasional typo there.

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I remember I liked Zahn's trilogy way back when it first came out, so I am working my way through them again. I am really disappointed with the typos. The first one had a few that could be ignored, but the second book is really bad. I'm only about 1/3 of the way through the second book, but every time the word 'kind' has been replaced with the word 'land'. And occasionally the word 'the' has been replaced with the word 'die'. And there have been several other GLARING typos. I paid $7.99 for something they couldn't even bother to proofread? I guess I will go back to the inexpensive indie books; I am a lot more forgiving of the occasional typo there.

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Yikes, that's really bad. I haven't purchased any yet (hours cut and MOH at wedding in a month, gotta save cash), but that's disappointing.
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Yikes, that's really bad. I haven't purchased any yet (hours cut and MOH at wedding in a month, gotta save cash), but that's disappointing.
I didn't pick up the Zahn books, but I've read the first seven X-wing novels so far (in ePub from B&N, if that matters). There's been a handful of typos per book, like what DuaneAA was describing for Heir to the Empire; I haven't seen any wholescale problems like DuaneAA is describing in Dark Force Rising yet, so hopefully that's a one-off.

(I did find it interesting that apparently Random House had different people working on different books in the X-wing series; there's two or three different variations on formatting the dramatis personae/chapter headers that are identical in the print versions...)
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I'm curious - what were you expecting for dialog from a character that only howls?
Well, in the movies, at least Han understood what the howls meant. It was clear that there was an underlying language. In Zahn's books, they are just plain howls, like an animal.
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