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Tried this and doesn't work. Onenote needs stroke information to recognize the handwritting. Won't work if you just put a pdf there (unless it is printed text).
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#17 |
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OK, I see, I forgot those notes written on the edge and saved as a PDF are really a PDF image. Bummer. Well the possibility exists for future versions of Android, and new software apps are developed all the time.
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#18 |
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Guts of a Journal file and the stroke info . . .
An edge Journal file is a gzip'd compressed XML text file. The text describes the strokes. We only need some clever person to understand what is in the text file and convert it to something another handwriting recognition program would use.
I generated a test file in Journal that looks something like this: A B C D E This is a test Black Red Blue Orange (Well' it looked kinda orange to me.) Inside the file it calls this color "yellow". Uncompressed, the test Journal file looks like this: Code:
<?xml version="1.0" standalone="no"?> <xournal version="0.4.2.1"> <title>ESI journal v1.0</title> <author>Kenneth Jennings</author> <page width="396.00" height="540.00" tabname=""> <background type="solid" color="white" style="lined" /> <layer> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 72.48 81.60 72.48 80.16 73.44 78.24 74.40 76.32 75.84 73.92 76.32 72.48 76.80 71.04 77.76 69.60 78.24 67.68 79.20 66.24 79.68 64.80 80.16 63.36 80.64 61.92 81.12 60.48 81.60 59.04 81.60 57.12 82.08 55.68 82.08 57.12 82.08 58.56 82.56 61.44 82.56 63.36 82.56 64.80 82.56 67.20 83.04 69.12 83.04 71.04 83.04 72.96 83.04 74.40 83.52 75.84 84.00 77.76 84.00 79.20 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 81.60 73.44 80.16 72.96 78.72 72.96 76.80 72.96 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 115.20 64.80 115.20 63.36 115.20 64.80 115.20 66.72 115.20 68.16 115.20 69.60 115.20 71.52 114.72 72.96 114.72 74.40 114.72 75.84 114.72 77.28 114.72 79.20 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" 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61.92 193.92 61.44 195.36 60.96 196.80 60.48 198.72 60.48 200.64 60.48 202.56 60.96 204.00 61.44 205.44 63.36 206.40 64.80 206.88 66.24 206.88 67.68 207.36 69.60 207.36 71.04 207.36 73.44 206.88 75.84 206.40 78.24 205.44 80.16 202.56 82.08 201.12 82.56 196.80 83.04 195.36 83.04 193.92 83.04 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 247.20 59.52 245.76 59.04 243.84 59.52 240.48 59.52 238.56 59.52 236.64 60.00 235.20 60.48 233.76 61.92 232.32 64.32 231.36 66.72 230.40 68.16 229.44 71.04 228.96 72.48 228.48 73.92 228.00 76.32 227.52 77.76 228.96 78.72 231.84 78.24 234.24 77.28 235.68 77.28 237.12 76.80 239.52 76.32 240.96 75.84 242.40 75.84 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 231.36 71.52 232.80 71.04 234.72 70.56 236.16 70.08 238.08 69.60 240.00 69.60 241.44 69.60 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 70.08 138.24 71.52 139.20 73.44 138.72 75.84 138.24 77.28 137.76 79.68 136.80 81.60 135.84 83.04 135.36 84.96 134.88 86.40 134.88 87.84 135.36 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 75.36 142.56 74.88 141.12 75.84 139.68 75.84 141.12 75.84 143.04 75.84 144.96 75.84 146.40 75.84 148.80 75.84 151.20 76.32 153.12 77.76 154.08 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 89.28 134.40 88.32 135.84 87.84 139.20 87.36 140.64 87.36 142.08 86.88 143.52 86.40 144.96 86.40 146.88 85.92 149.28 85.44 151.20 86.40 149.76 87.36 147.84 88.32 146.40 89.28 144.48 90.72 143.52 92.16 144.00 92.16 145.44 92.64 146.88 92.64 148.80 92.64 150.24 93.12 151.68 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 100.32 143.04 98.88 143.04 98.40 144.96 98.40 146.88 97.92 148.80 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 99.36 136.80 100.80 136.80 101.76 138.72 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 111.84 141.12 110.40 140.64 108.48 141.12 106.56 142.08 105.12 143.52 104.16 144.96 105.60 145.92 107.52 144.96 108.96 144.00 110.40 144.48 111.84 145.92 111.84 147.36 111.84 148.80 110.88 150.24 108.96 151.20 107.04 151.68 105.60 152.16 103.68 152.64 102.24 152.64 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 142.56 144.96 142.56 143.52 142.56 145.44 142.56 147.36 142.56 149.28 142.56 150.72 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 141.60 135.84 141.12 134.40 142.56 135.36 143.52 136.80 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 156.00 143.52 154.56 143.04 153.12 143.04 151.68 143.52 150.24 144.00 148.80 144.48 148.80 145.92 150.24 146.40 151.68 146.40 153.12 146.40 154.56 146.88 155.52 148.32 155.52 149.76 155.52 151.20 154.08 152.16 152.16 152.64 150.24 153.12 148.32 153.12 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 191.52 145.92 190.08 145.92 189.12 144.48 187.68 144.00 186.24 143.52 184.80 143.52 183.36 143.52 181.44 144.48 180.48 145.92 180.00 147.36 180.96 148.80 182.40 149.28 184.32 149.28 186.24 148.32 187.68 147.36 188.64 145.92 189.12 144.48 188.16 145.92 188.16 147.84 188.16 149.76 188.64 151.68 190.08 152.64 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 216.96 144.00 215.52 143.52 217.44 142.56 219.84 141.60 221.28 141.60 222.72 141.12 224.16 140.64 227.04 140.16 228.48 140.16 230.40 139.68 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 223.68 132.48 222.72 133.92 222.72 135.84 222.24 137.28 222.24 138.72 222.24 140.16 221.28 143.04 220.80 144.48 220.80 145.92 220.32 147.36 219.84 148.80 219.84 150.24 219.84 151.68 221.28 152.16 222.72 152.16 224.16 151.68 226.08 151.20 227.52 150.72 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 233.76 146.40 234.72 144.96 236.16 144.96 238.08 144.48 239.52 143.52 240.96 142.56 240.96 141.12 239.04 141.12 237.12 141.60 235.20 142.56 233.76 143.52 232.80 144.96 233.28 146.88 234.24 148.32 236.16 148.80 238.08 149.28 240.48 148.80 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 254.88 141.12 254.88 139.68 253.44 139.20 251.52 139.68 250.08 140.64 248.64 141.60 247.20 143.04 247.68 144.48 249.12 144.00 251.04 144.00 252.48 143.52 253.92 144.48 254.40 145.92 253.92 147.36 252.96 148.80 251.52 149.76 250.08 150.24 248.16 150.24 246.72 150.72 245.28 150.72 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 260.64 144.00 261.60 142.56 263.52 141.12 264.96 140.64 266.40 140.16 268.32 140.16 270.24 140.16 271.68 139.68 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 267.84 131.04 266.88 133.92 265.44 138.24 265.44 139.68 265.44 141.60 265.44 143.04 265.92 145.44 267.36 146.40 268.80 146.88 270.72 146.88 272.64 146.88 274.08 146.40 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 79.20 208.32 78.72 206.88 78.72 205.44 78.72 206.88 78.72 208.32 78.72 209.76 78.72 212.16 78.72 214.56 78.24 216.00 78.24 217.44 78.24 219.84 78.24 221.28 77.76 223.20 77.76 225.12 77.28 226.56 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 77.28 211.68 77.28 210.24 78.72 209.28 80.16 208.32 82.08 206.88 84.00 205.92 85.44 204.96 86.88 204.96 87.84 206.40 87.36 207.84 86.40 209.76 85.44 212.16 84.00 214.08 82.56 216.00 81.12 217.44 82.56 217.92 84.00 217.92 85.44 217.44 86.88 217.44 88.32 218.40 88.32 219.84 87.36 221.28 86.40 222.72 85.44 224.16 84.00 225.12 82.56 226.08 80.64 226.56 78.72 227.52 76.80 228.00 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 95.04 205.44 94.56 206.88 94.56 208.80 94.56 210.24 94.56 211.68 94.08 215.52 94.08 217.44 93.60 220.80 93.12 223.68 92.64 225.12 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 105.60 216.96 105.60 215.52 104.16 215.04 102.72 216.00 101.28 216.96 99.84 218.40 98.40 220.32 98.40 221.76 99.84 222.72 101.28 222.72 102.72 222.24 104.16 220.32 105.60 218.40 106.08 216.96 106.08 215.52 104.64 216.48 104.64 217.92 104.64 219.84 105.12 221.28 106.56 222.72 108.00 222.24 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 118.56 214.56 117.12 214.56 115.68 215.04 114.24 216.48 113.28 217.92 112.80 219.84 112.80 221.28 114.24 222.72 115.68 222.24 117.60 221.28 119.04 219.84 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 129.60 203.04 128.16 204.00 126.72 207.36 126.24 208.80 124.80 212.16 124.32 214.08 123.84 216.00 123.36 217.44 122.88 218.88 122.40 220.80 122.88 218.88 123.84 217.44 124.80 216.00 125.76 214.56 127.68 213.12 129.12 212.16 131.04 211.20 132.96 210.24 134.88 209.28 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="black" width="1.41"> 125.28 216.96 125.28 218.40 125.76 219.84 127.20 221.76 128.64 222.24 130.08 222.24 </stroke> . . . to be continued . . . |
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#19 |
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More guts, continued.
The site doesn't like Really Long Posts. . . Here's the rest of the xml file:
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<stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 77.28 252.96 76.80 251.52 76.32 252.96 75.84 254.40 75.84 256.80 75.84 259.68 75.36 261.60 75.36 264.96 75.36 267.84 74.88 269.28 74.88 271.20 74.40 272.64 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 75.36 255.84 73.92 254.88 73.92 253.44 75.36 252.00 76.80 251.04 78.24 249.60 80.16 248.16 81.60 247.20 83.04 247.20 84.00 248.64 84.48 250.56 84.00 252.00 83.04 253.92 82.08 255.84 80.64 257.76 78.72 259.20 77.28 260.16 75.36 260.64 73.92 260.64 75.36 261.60 76.80 263.04 78.24 264.48 79.20 265.92 80.64 267.36 81.60 268.80 82.56 270.24 84.00 269.76 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 89.76 267.84 91.20 267.36 92.64 266.40 94.08 264.96 94.08 263.52 92.64 262.08 91.20 262.08 89.76 262.56 88.32 263.52 87.84 264.96 87.84 266.40 88.80 267.84 90.72 269.28 92.64 269.28 94.56 269.28 96.48 268.80 98.40 267.84 100.32 267.36 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 109.92 263.52 108.48 262.56 107.04 262.08 105.60 262.08 104.16 262.56 102.72 264.48 101.76 265.92 102.24 267.36 103.68 268.80 105.60 268.32 107.52 266.88 109.44 264.48 110.40 262.56 111.36 260.64 112.80 257.28 113.28 255.36 113.28 252.48 113.28 251.04 112.80 249.60 111.84 248.16 110.40 248.16 109.44 249.60 108.96 251.04 108.48 252.48 108.00 255.84 108.00 258.24 108.00 260.16 108.48 262.08 109.44 264.96 110.88 266.88 112.32 267.84 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="blue" width="1.41"> 72.48 305.28 72.00 303.84 71.52 305.28 71.52 306.72 71.04 309.12 71.04 312.00 71.04 313.44 71.52 316.32 71.52 317.76 71.52 319.68 72.96 319.68 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="blue" width="1.41"> 71.52 304.80 71.04 303.36 72.48 302.88 73.92 301.92 75.36 301.92 76.80 301.44 78.72 300.96 80.64 300.48 81.60 301.92 81.12 303.36 80.16 305.28 79.20 307.20 77.76 308.64 76.32 309.60 77.76 309.60 79.68 310.08 81.12 310.56 82.56 311.52 83.04 312.96 83.04 314.40 83.04 315.84 83.04 317.28 82.08 318.72 80.64 319.68 78.72 320.16 76.80 320.64 74.88 320.64 74.88 319.20 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="blue" width="1.41"> 91.20 302.40 91.20 300.96 91.20 299.52 90.72 301.44 90.24 303.36 90.24 304.80 89.76 306.72 89.76 308.64 89.28 312.00 89.28 313.92 89.28 316.80 89.28 318.72 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="blue" width="1.41"> 98.88 312.00 98.88 310.56 97.92 312.00 97.92 313.44 98.40 315.36 99.36 316.80 100.80 317.28 102.24 316.80 104.16 315.36 105.12 313.92 106.08 312.00 106.56 310.08 106.56 313.44 106.56 315.36 106.56 316.80 108.00 317.28 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="blue" width="1.41"> 114.24 312.96 115.68 312.00 117.12 311.04 118.56 310.56 120.00 310.08 121.44 309.60 122.88 309.12 123.36 307.68 121.44 306.72 120.00 307.20 118.08 307.68 116.64 309.12 115.68 311.04 115.68 313.44 117.60 314.88 119.04 315.84 122.40 316.32 124.32 315.84 126.72 315.36 128.16 314.88 130.08 313.92 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="yellow" width="1.41"> 86.88 354.24 88.32 353.28 87.84 351.84 86.40 350.88 84.96 349.92 83.04 349.44 81.60 348.96 79.68 349.44 77.76 349.92 75.84 351.84 74.40 353.76 73.92 355.20 73.44 356.64 73.44 358.08 73.92 360.00 74.40 361.44 75.36 362.88 79.68 365.76 83.52 365.28 84.96 364.32 86.88 363.36 89.76 360.48 90.72 358.56 91.20 357.12 91.20 355.68 90.72 353.76 89.28 352.32 87.36 351.36 85.92 351.36 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="yellow" width="1.41"> 97.92 359.04 96.48 358.56 96.00 360.00 95.52 361.44 95.52 363.36 95.04 364.80 95.04 366.24 96.48 364.32 97.44 362.40 98.40 360.96 99.84 359.04 101.28 357.60 102.72 356.64 104.16 357.12 105.12 358.56 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="yellow" width="1.41"> 115.20 359.04 116.64 358.08 115.20 357.60 113.76 358.08 111.84 359.04 109.92 360.00 108.48 361.44 108.00 362.88 108.48 364.32 109.92 364.80 111.84 364.32 113.76 363.36 115.20 361.92 116.16 360.48 116.64 359.04 116.16 360.48 116.16 362.40 116.64 363.84 117.12 365.28 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="yellow" width="1.41"> 124.32 357.60 124.32 359.04 123.84 360.96 123.84 362.88 123.84 364.32 125.28 362.88 125.76 360.96 126.72 359.52 127.68 358.08 129.12 357.12 130.56 358.56 131.04 360.00 131.04 361.92 131.04 363.36 130.56 365.28 130.08 366.72 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="yellow" width="1.41"> 140.64 358.56 142.08 357.12 140.64 356.64 139.20 357.12 137.76 357.60 136.32 359.04 135.36 360.96 135.36 362.40 136.32 363.84 137.76 363.84 139.20 363.36 140.64 361.92 141.60 360.00 142.08 358.08 142.56 356.64 143.04 358.08 143.52 360.48 143.52 363.84 144.00 365.28 144.48 369.60 144.48 372.96 144.48 374.40 144.48 375.84 142.56 377.28 141.12 376.32 139.20 375.36 137.28 373.44 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="yellow" width="1.41"> 151.20 360.48 152.64 359.52 154.08 359.04 155.52 358.56 156.96 357.60 157.44 356.16 156.48 354.72 154.56 354.72 153.12 355.20 151.20 356.64 150.24 359.04 150.24 361.92 150.72 363.36 152.16 366.24 155.04 367.20 156.48 367.20 160.32 365.76 </stroke> </layer> </page> </xournal> |
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Yes I tried as a pdf and it didn't work on onenote. In any case I don't think onenote would understand esj format either.
As kenjennings said we need to figure out how to convert esj into something some handwritting program can read. Wished we had some documentation on that esj format. Is this some sort of standard way to keep strokes information? or is this something particular to the EE. |
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#21 |
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I suppose each pair of those numbers between the stroke tag are like X and Y position on the screen
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Here are all the red strokes: Code:
<stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 77.28 252.96 76.80 251.52 76.32 252.96 75.84 254.40 75.84 256.80 75.84 259.68 75.36 261.60 75.36 264.96 75.36 267.84 74.88 269.28 74.88 271.20 74.40 272.64 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 75.36 255.84 73.92 254.88 73.92 253.44 75.36 252.00 76.80 251.04 78.24 249.60 80.16 248.16 81.60 247.20 83.04 247.20 84.00 248.64 84.48 250.56 84.00 252.00 83.04 253.92 82.08 255.84 80.64 257.76 78.72 259.20 77.28 260.16 75.36 260.64 73.92 260.64 75.36 261.60 76.80 263.04 78.24 264.48 79.20 265.92 80.64 267.36 81.60 268.80 82.56 270.24 84.00 269.76 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 89.76 267.84 91.20 267.36 92.64 266.40 94.08 264.96 94.08 263.52 92.64 262.08 91.20 262.08 89.76 262.56 88.32 263.52 87.84 264.96 87.84 266.40 88.80 267.84 90.72 269.28 92.64 269.28 94.56 269.28 96.48 268.80 98.40 267.84 100.32 267.36 </stroke> <stroke tool="pen" color="red" width="1.41"> 109.92 263.52 108.48 262.56 107.04 262.08 105.60 262.08 104.16 262.56 102.72 264.48 101.76 265.92 102.24 267.36 103.68 268.80 105.60 268.32 107.52 266.88 109.44 264.48 110.40 262.56 111.36 260.64 112.80 257.28 113.28 255.36 113.28 252.48 113.28 251.04 112.80 249.60 111.84 248.16 110.40 248.16 109.44 249.60 108.96 251.04 108.48 252.48 108.00 255.84 108.00 258.24 108.00 260.16 108.48 262.08 109.44 264.96 110.88 266.88 112.32 267.84 </stroke> Assuming these are X/Y coordinates, it looks like the non-smooth line drawing mode (continuously?) grabs coordinates from the pen. It's a rather dense data set. Last edited by kenjennings; 07-07-2010 at 04:14 PM. |
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#24 |
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Excelent! I see hope now. Now just need to investigate for some open source handwriting recognition software compatible with Xournal
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Journal can render TEXT
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<text font="SanSerif" size="16" x="100.00" y="100.00" color="magenta"> Magenta TEXT </text> Last edited by kenjennings; 07-07-2010 at 05:02 PM. |
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That's awesome !
Hopefully text will be added soon Quote:
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#27 |
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I found an easy way to search notes made in the journal. If you send the notes to evernote as an image (I tried png format) they become searchable. In theory you can send a pdf as well (at least from windows) but I think you need to pay for the premium account in order to make it searchable.
Wouldn't it be cool if we could sync the notes directly from the journal with evernote? Maybe a partnership between EE and evernote? Last edited by fgruber; 07-23-2010 at 11:50 AM. |
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#30 |
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Add my +1 to this. Also would like to be able to type notes on the eink side as well as write them (this may already be a possibility though, I'm not sure).
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