Copyright is Out of Sight - Page 35

wyndslash · 02-25-2011, 11:01 PM

yeah, it's about human experimentation in WWII, and why the perpetrators were never persecuted. it's a good but hard (emotionally for me) read anyway o:

spellbanisher · 02-25-2011, 11:08 PM

Is it nonfiction?

wyndslash · 02-25-2011, 11:10 PM

yes, it's nonfiction. it's a historical account.

i have no doubt that several governments worked in concert to keep this as low-profile as possible.

tompe · 02-26-2011, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wyndslash

@giggle: nobody's forcing you to pay artists. everyone has choices. it's just a matter of whether it's a good or bad choice, or a hard or easy choice. it's like what my marketing prof told us; if you can't afford it, don't buy it.

But you can afford it since you can copy it. Nobody is forcing the artist to making things available by selling it. So if he do not like people just copying his work he has a choice of not making it available. Everyone has a choice.

wyndslash · 02-26-2011, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe

But you can afford it since you can copy it. Nobody is forcing the artist to making things available by selling it. So if he do not like people just copying his work he has a choice of not making it available. Everyone has a choice.

i think my professor was talking about affordability in a legal sense :P

but anyway, sure, everyone has a choice. writers just shouldn't write anymore, since obviously nobody respects them and they should just find another way to make a living.

LONG LIVE COPYING AND PIRACY.

OR OR. SINCE EVERYONE'S COPYING, IT SHOULD BE GOVERNMENTS WHO CHURN OUT BOOKS AND CULTURE IN ALL FORMS! (that way nobody's feelings gets hurt

)

LONG LIVE LAWLESSNESS.

LONG LIVE BIG BROTHER

W00T.

tompe · 02-26-2011, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyndslash

but anyway, sure, everyone has a choice. writers just shouldn't write anymore, since obviously nobody respects them and they should just find another way to make a living.

I would say that copying a book and actually read it is showing a great deal of respect for the author. You use up some of your hours that could have been used to do other things just because you trust and respect the author and his work.

darknessangel · 02-26-2011, 05:35 AM

Ok... first, I haven't read all 34 pages of this thread but here my humble opinion.

I think copyright laws should be valid just for the lifetime of the author and extended only for supporting his nuclear family (like wife + underage son/daughter). Yes, because everyone has the right to earn their daily bread.

But beyond that... I think the people that profit from a book after the author's death are disgusting leeches and lowlifes. These people are practically earning (not even inheriting) money without having worked for it. This is not like an inheritance you have to work with, like hotel chains or a business. I think it should be enough if the inheritance is bucketloads of already earned money if the author became a millionaire with a book.

In addition, some science books should be released from copyrights in some poor regions. I'm pretty sure that in countries of the third world you're not going to or even CAN get that $400 medicine book, you're thankful for even getting an education at all! Enforcing copyright laws in such environments is utterly ridiculous and imposses clear veil of ignorance onto people without resources!

wyndslash · 02-26-2011, 06:05 AM

@darkness: don't worry! most of it is off-topic goodness

i get what you're saying, and I do agree with some parts~ i think we all just need some lovin' going on

@tompe: kinda like the saying, "imitation is a form of flattery"?

yep, i do get what you're saying~

spellbanisher · 02-26-2011, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyndslash

@darkness: don't worry! most of it is off-topic goodness

What are you saying?

Not one post in this thread has been off-topic!

wyndslash · 02-26-2011, 07:24 PM

ooh, you're back

spellbanisher · 02-26-2011, 07:26 PM

I never left.

spellbanisher · 02-26-2011, 07:32 PM

If you haven't you should vote in this poll: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=123219

wyndslash · 02-26-2011, 07:36 PM

voted

spellbanisher · 02-26-2011, 07:42 PM

Awesome. Cats are ahead, but there should have been a choice for rabbits. Dogs are dirty and clingy, and they have big nasty tongues and like to sniff your crotch. Cats are independent, athletic (they can climb fences and trees a dog can't do that) and can sleep on your chest.

wyndslash · 02-26-2011, 07:47 PM

rabbits are food

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02-25-2011, 11:01 PM	#511
wyndslash Wizard Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire	yeah, it's about human experimentation in WWII, and why the perpetrators were never persecuted. it's a good but hard (emotionally for me) read anyway o:

02-25-2011, 11:08 PM	#512
spellbanisher Guru Posts: 826 Karma: 6566849 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: kindle keyboard, kindle fire hd, S4, Nook hd+	Is it nonfiction?

02-25-2011, 11:10 PM	#513
wyndslash Wizard Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire	yes, it's nonfiction. it's a historical account. i have no doubt that several governments worked in concert to keep this as low-profile as possible.

02-26-2011, 05:35 AM	#517
darknessangel Addict Posts: 297 Karma: 1018140 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: PRS-505, iPad	Ok... first, I haven't read all 34 pages of this thread but here my humble opinion. I think copyright laws should be valid just for the lifetime of the author and extended only for supporting his nuclear family (like wife + underage son/daughter). Yes, because everyone has the right to earn their daily bread. But beyond that... I think the people that profit from a book after the author's death are disgusting leeches and lowlifes. These people are practically earning (not even inheriting) money without having worked for it. This is not like an inheritance you have to work with, like hotel chains or a business. I think it should be enough if the inheritance is bucketloads of already earned money if the author became a millionaire with a book. In addition, some science books should be released from copyrights in some poor regions. I'm pretty sure that in countries of the third world you're not going to or even CAN get that $400 medicine book, you're thankful for even getting an education at all! Enforcing copyright laws in such environments is utterly ridiculous and imposses clear veil of ignorance onto people without resources!

02-26-2011, 06:05 AM	#518
wyndslash Wizard Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire	@darkness: don't worry! most of it is off-topic goodness i get what you're saying, and I do agree with some parts~ i think we all just need some lovin' going on @tompe: kinda like the saying, "imitation is a form of flattery"? yep, i do get what you're saying~

02-26-2011, 07:24 PM	#520
wyndslash Wizard Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire	ooh, you're back

02-26-2011, 07:26 PM	#521
spellbanisher Guru Posts: 826 Karma: 6566849 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: kindle keyboard, kindle fire hd, S4, Nook hd+	I never left.

02-26-2011, 07:32 PM	#522
spellbanisher Guru Posts: 826 Karma: 6566849 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: kindle keyboard, kindle fire hd, S4, Nook hd+	If you haven't you should vote in this poll: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=123219

02-26-2011, 07:36 PM	#523
wyndslash Wizard Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire	voted

02-26-2011, 07:42 PM	#524
spellbanisher Guru Posts: 826 Karma: 6566849 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: kindle keyboard, kindle fire hd, S4, Nook hd+	Awesome. Cats are ahead, but there should have been a choice for rabbits. Dogs are dirty and clingy, and they have big nasty tongues and like to sniff your crotch. Cats are independent, athletic (they can climb fences and trees a dog can't do that) and can sleep on your chest.

02-26-2011, 07:47 PM	#525
wyndslash Wizard Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire	rabbits are food