Font, ScreenSaver & USBNetwork Hacks for Kindle 2.x, 3.x & 4.x - Page 92

pietro99 · 02-08-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerinnyc

Just give it time. Your books need to resync with the page numbers. I have DRM-free books and the page numbers are definitely showing. Just took some time -- they didn't right away.

Thanks for that. But from the Amazon web-page it seems you have to press "menu" to get the page number. Is that correct? Then presumably the location bar is as before.

Tiersten · 02-08-2011, 01:24 AM

As noted elsewhere, 3.1 fixed the update mechanism so it will ignore the public key used by hacks for signing. Do NOT update if installing hacks is important to you.

NiLuJe · 02-08-2011, 01:38 AM

Yep, it did. Bit busy right now, but I'll try to take a look at it more carefully tomorrow

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(And catch up on the crapload of stuff I missed here :x).

It broke (or fixed, depending on which side of the fence you're standing ;p) both the jailbreak install on a vanilla Kindle, and the install/uninstall of hacks on an updated previously jailbroken Kindle.

EDIT: Urgh. Probably won't answer all the PM, so do send me a new one if you haven't found an answer by now.

Tiersten · 02-08-2011, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NiLuJe

Yep, it did. Bit busy right now, but I'll try to take a look at it more carefully tomorrow

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The easy but only a temporary solution to the 3.1 change is just to add an alternative mechanism for installing hacks as a update to 3.0.x and to make sure people install it before updating to 3.1. The update doesn't mess with any of the runlevel scripts in /etc so we can put whatever in there (for now). Not really looked at the implications of running otaup during boot or whether it can be run via a script after boot. It may or may not work very well so just something which runs the unprotected scripts/hacks is probably a better idea.

The obvious downside to this is that anybody already on 3.1 who hasn't got USB networking installed or this alternative installation mechanism is stuck until there is a new jailbreak. You'd need this alternative installation mechanism anyway at this point unless the main copy of otaup is modified which is a bad idea considering real OTA updates will fail.

I'm not even going to suggest making people install USB networking as thats just going to cause horrific issues.

kranu · 02-08-2011, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiersten

The easy but only a temporary solution to the 3.1 change is just to add an alternative mechanism for installing hacks as a update to 3.0.x and to make sure people install it before updating to 3.1. The update doesn't mess with any of the runlevel scripts in /etc so we can put whatever in there (for now). Not really looked at the implications of running otaup during boot or whether it can be run via a script after boot. It may or may not work very well so just something which runs the unprotected scripts/hacks is probably a better idea.

The obvious downside to this is that anybody already on 3.1 who hasn't got USB networking installed or this alternative installation mechanism is stuck until there is a new jailbreak. You'd need this alternative installation mechanism anyway at this point unless the main copy of otaup is modified which is a bad idea considering real OTA updates will fail.

I'm not even going to suggest making people install USB networking as thats just going to cause horrific issues.

Launchpad can pretty much do all of this, I think. It's super easy to install. You could set a keybinding to run a standard shell script update.sh. This shell script could automatically extract all tar files in the /mnt/us folder and run the "install.sh" included in each tar. The install.sh script is then free to manipulate the data to do whatever its supposed to do.

bartveld · 02-08-2011, 03:56 AM

Just to be clear: do the hacks still work on 3.1 when I already have them installed and then update?

Tiersten · 02-08-2011, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bartveld

Just to be clear: do the hacks still work on 3.1 when I already have them installed and then update?

The USB networking one does for sure but you need to readd the symlink in /test/bin if you want ~usbNetwork to work. I've not got any personal experience with the others but some people have reported that the screensaver hack still works if its installed before 3.1 but I've also heard conflicting reports that it also doesn't work.

Note that you will not be able to uninstall any hacks with 3.1 installed at this time. (excluding routes via launchpad and USB network etc...)

bartveld · 02-08-2011, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiersten

The USB networking one does for sure but you need to readd the symlink in /test/bin if you want ~usbNetwork to work. I've not got any personal experience with the others but some people have reported that the screensaver hack still works if its installed before 3.1 but I've also heard conflicting reports that it also doesn't work.

Note that you will not be able to uninstall any hacks with 3.1 installed at this time. (excluding routes via launchpad and USB network etc...)

I've seen reports saying that the font hack (my main reason for hacking) still works, but can't be uninstalled. But I suppose that will be remedied by NiLuJe in a future update of the hack. I think I'll wait, just to be on the safe side...

Tiersten · 02-08-2011, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bartveld

I've seen reports saying that the font hack (my main reason for hacking) still works, but can't be uninstalled. But I suppose that will be remedied by NiLuJe in a future update of the hack. I think I'll wait, just to be on the safe side...

A new jailbreak method needs to be devised for people already on 3.1. The otaup mechanism can be worked around without too much difficulty.

For people who are on a previous version of the firmware then its easier as you can work around the otaup mechanism and then update to 3.1. Not that this has been written yet so don't expect something quite yet.

test011 · 02-08-2011, 11:06 AM

If previous hacks are still working then can't previously-installed-hack's-user-partition-parts be modified to run some arbitrary script to install Launchpad or similar?

Tiersten · 02-08-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by test011

If previous hacks are still working then can't previously-installed-hack's-user-partition-parts be modified to run some arbitrary script to install Launchpad or similar?

Yes. Thats what I'm pondering doing. It doesn't help anybody that has already upgraded to 3.1 without launchpad or USB network or something else like that already installed however.

billmilo · 02-08-2011, 02:13 PM

I am stuck on this worthless update (3.1)

it's my fault though

NiLuJe · 02-08-2011, 02:53 PM

Like Tiersten said, I'm not too worried about jailbroken Kindle doing the 3.1 update, we already have a foot in the thing, and with almost every hack (be it launchpad, or the fonts/ss hacks), everything is done from the userstore, so it would be trivial to 'install' something from there.

Problem is: Without a 'proper' jailbreak method, vanilla 3.1 Kindle are screwed, and the few ideas I have for restoring the ability to install/uninstall hacks on a hacked 3.1 Kindle aren't really 'pretty'... ;/

And re: Do the ss/fonts hacks still work on FW 3.1: AFAICT, yes, and a few reports seem to confirm that. But, given the above reasons, I'd recommend not doing the update on a hacked Kindle unless you know what you're getting into, or at least waiting a bit...

rogerinnyc · 02-08-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bartveld

Just to be clear: do the hacks still work on 3.1 when I already have them installed and then update?

They do for me. I installed 3.1 over 3.0.3 on my K3 (3g) with the Screensaver Hack and the Fonts Hack already installed. It took a long time to install (lots of restarts), but finally came to rest on the home screen. Everything is working fine, and it's very nice to have page numbers AND my (well, Nulije's) Hacks.

spiffae · 02-08-2011, 05:57 PM

Argh! I only got to reading about all the great kindle hacks out there after I was unsatisfied with how the 3.1 FW hid the locations - now I'd LOVE to try some hacks out (subscribed to a kindle wallpapers tumblr even!) and I have a K3 vanilla 3.1 /facepalm. Is this the best place to stay tuned for a 3.1 jailbreak?

be nice to me I'm new here!

02-08-2011, 01:38 AM	#1368
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Yep, it did. Bit busy right now, but I'll try to take a look at it more carefully tomorrow . (And catch up on the crapload of stuff I missed here :x). It broke (or fixed, depending on which side of the fence you're standing ;p) both the jailbreak install on a vanilla Kindle, and the install/uninstall of hacks on an updated previously jailbroken Kindle. EDIT: Urgh. Probably won't answer all the PM, so do send me a new one if you haven't found an answer by now. Last edited by NiLuJe; 02-08-2011 at 02:14 AM.

02-08-2011, 11:06 AM	#1375
test011 Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 20728 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: K2i, K3(B006), KT(WiFi)	If previous hacks are still working then can't previously-installed-hack's-user-partition-parts be modified to run some arbitrary script to install Launchpad or similar? Last edited by test011; 02-08-2011 at 11:25 AM.

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02-08-2011, 01:24 AM	#1367
Tiersten Guru Posts: 987 Karma: 8641 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle 3G+WiFi	As noted elsewhere, 3.1 fixed the update mechanism so it will ignore the public key used by hacks for signing. Do NOT update if installing hacks is important to you.

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02-08-2011, 02:13 PM	#1377
billmilo Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 76 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle 3 Wifi	I am stuck on this worthless update (3.1) it's my fault though

02-08-2011, 02:53 PM	#1378
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Like Tiersten said, I'm not too worried about jailbroken Kindle doing the 3.1 update, we already have a foot in the thing, and with almost every hack (be it launchpad, or the fonts/ss hacks), everything is done from the userstore, so it would be trivial to 'install' something from there. Problem is: Without a 'proper' jailbreak method, vanilla 3.1 Kindle are screwed, and the few ideas I have for restoring the ability to install/uninstall hacks on a hacked 3.1 Kindle aren't really 'pretty'... ;/ And re: Do the ss/fonts hacks still work on FW 3.1: AFAICT, yes, and a few reports seem to confirm that. But, given the above reasons, I'd recommend not doing the update on a hacked Kindle unless you know what you're getting into, or at least waiting a bit...

02-08-2011, 05:57 PM	#1380
spiffae Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3	Argh! I only got to reading about all the great kindle hacks out there after I was unsatisfied with how the 3.1 FW hid the locations - now I'd LOVE to try some hacks out (subscribed to a kindle wallpapers tumblr even!) and I have a K3 vanilla 3.1 /facepalm. Is this the best place to stay tuned for a 3.1 jailbreak? be nice to me I'm new here!

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