k3 webkit browser...not impressed - Page 2

SteveEisenberg · 01-27-2011, 07:51 AM

3G web with the K3 is a tremendous value despite the browser having limitations and use of it having a learning curve. Every once in a while someone discovers a new improved way to use it, sometimes documented in the sticky "Links Every Kindle Owner Should Have" thread.

Start with www.kinstant.com.

While it does not work with most sites, www.readingthenet.com has some semi-secret sauce that can dramatically speed page loads. Plus it cures the problem of bouncing back to the default font size.

Getting the perfect bookmark may require using a combination of tools such as full-text rss web sites and readingthenet.com and google.com/gwt/n.

The best use of an eReader browser is for sites with extended text you want to read.

Tuba · 01-27-2011, 11:32 AM

OP was simply stating that he expected the webkit browser to be better than the other kindle browsers and was wondering if he was doing something wrong or if it was just a bad implementation.

He never ranted or complained about the lack of non-ereader capabilities of the Kindle. Some people read this into any question or criticism of our beloved kindles due to some posts asking for non-ereader perks.

whitearrow · 01-27-2011, 02:17 PM

I think the K3 browser is better than the K2 browser. It's faster and at least allows you to zoom in on parts of pages.

IMO, either one is best used with mobile versions of web pages, which should be faster to load and more readable that full web versions.

hal2814 · 01-27-2011, 02:50 PM

I don't see why people are jumping on your case. It would be different if the K3 was the first Kindle with a browser and you were complaining about it. But the K2 had a browser and the K3 browser isn't a unilateral step up in browsing. Personally, the K3 browser infuriates the heck out of me compared to the one on the K2. I wish we had an option of old or new browser on the K3. On the bright side, PDF support on the K3 is magical compared to the K2 and DX models.

DreamWriter · 01-27-2011, 03:40 PM

I've never used a K2, so I can't weigh in on a comparison between the two browsers. I have used all three web sites that Steve mentioned a few posts back with my K3, and they are a tremendous help! It's great not having to zoom in to read the pages, and it makes the K3's browser a much more pleasant experience for me.

ApK · 01-27-2011, 05:16 PM

Attitudes aside, I agree that, for it's role as a simple stripped down browser, the K2 had some advantages over the K3. The K3's web kit browsers seems to try to be too powerful and fails. I've posted here in several places about how much better my gmail experience is on our K2 than on the K3.

As for what to do about it, write to kindle-feedback@amazon.com and suggest the changes you'd like to see.

I'm still holding out hope for the browser in firmware version 3.0.4!

bZkindle · 01-27-2011, 06:04 PM

the links that SteveEisenberg provided help a lot. I've never had to really bother with those on the K2 because of the way it renders the pages, but it makes much difference on the K3. thanks.

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Originally Posted by ApK

Attitudes aside, I agree that, for it's role as a simple stripped down browser, the K2 had some advantages over the K3. The K3's web kit browsers seems to try to be too powerful and fails. I've posted here in several places about how much better my gmail experience is on our K2 than on the K3.
..snip..

that's a good way to put it. mind you, it's looks great! but the reason I think it does 'fail' (I would say 'makes it less useful' myself.) is because of the small screen: it's simply too much to cram into that amount of real estate.
Now, if amazon updated the DXG firmware to include the webkit browser it would be AMAZING!

Pushka · 01-27-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuba

OP was simply stating that he expected the webkit browser to be better than the other kindle browsers and was wondering if he was doing something wrong or if it was just a bad implementation.

He never ranted or complained about the lack of non-ereader capabilities of the Kindle. Some people read this into any question or criticism of our beloved kindles due to some posts asking for non-ereader perks.

He did, he said in his title "not impressed". How is that not a criticism?

bZkindle · 01-27-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushka

He did, he said in his title "not impressed". How is that not a criticism?

'not impressed' compared to the kindle 2.
you shouldn't judge a post by it's title.

Rizla · 01-27-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushka

He did, he said in his title "not impressed". How is that not a criticism?

Sheesh. Will you give it a rest? It's a discussion. He's allowed to criticize.

Pushka · 01-28-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizla

Sheesh. Will you give it a rest? It's a discussion. He's allowed to criticize.

Actually if you read my post in proper context, I wasnt responding to the fact that the OP made a criticism in his heading, but to another poster entirely, who posted that he wasnt!

The OP can make his comments, just as others are allowed to point out that the kindle is not an internet device, but an reader. So maybe I just dont need a rest, thanks.

bZkindle · 01-28-2011, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushka

Actually if you read my post in proper context, I wasnt responding to the fact that the OP made a criticism in his heading, but to another poster entirely , who posted that he wasnt!

The OP can make his comments, just as others are allowed to point out that the kindle is not an internet device, but an reader. So maybe I just dont need a rest, thanks.

yeah, and you misunderstood that one too.

Pushka · 01-28-2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bZkindle

perhaps I will just start a new one and try to be clearer in what I'm asking.

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Originally Posted by bZkindle

yeah, and you misunderstood that one too.

m0ngr31 · 01-28-2011, 01:57 AM

<rant>Listen, I know your mad as us for all our "backslapping" and whatnot, but seriously? Do you have to get upset about everything? Go take your medication or something for crying out loud.</rant>

JeremyR · 01-28-2011, 02:20 AM

What I don't get, is why, if you have an iPad, are you trying to browse with a Kindle in the first place?

01-27-2011, 07:51 AM	#16
SteveEisenberg Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,470 Karma: 44460032 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: near Philadelphia USA Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation)	3G web with the K3 is a tremendous value despite the browser having limitations and use of it having a learning curve. Every once in a while someone discovers a new improved way to use it, sometimes documented in the sticky "Links Every Kindle Owner Should Have" thread. Start with www.kinstant.com. While it does not work with most sites, www.readingthenet.com has some semi-secret sauce that can dramatically speed page loads. Plus it cures the problem of bouncing back to the default font size. Getting the perfect bookmark may require using a combination of tools such as full-text rss web sites and readingthenet.com and google.com/gwt/n. The best use of an eReader browser is for sites with extended text you want to read. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 01-27-2011 at 08:02 AM.

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01-27-2011, 11:32 AM	#17
Tuba Enthusiast Posts: 35 Karma: 592 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Kindle DX Graphite	OP was simply stating that he expected the webkit browser to be better than the other kindle browsers and was wondering if he was doing something wrong or if it was just a bad implementation. He never ranted or complained about the lack of non-ereader capabilities of the Kindle. Some people read this into any question or criticism of our beloved kindles due to some posts asking for non-ereader perks.

01-27-2011, 02:17 PM	#18
whitearrow Guru Posts: 808 Karma: 2260766 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Kindle Oasis 2	I think the K3 browser is better than the K2 browser. It's faster and at least allows you to zoom in on parts of pages. IMO, either one is best used with mobile versions of web pages, which should be faster to load and more readable that full web versions.

01-27-2011, 02:50 PM	#19
hal2814 Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 2460 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle 2	I don't see why people are jumping on your case. It would be different if the K3 was the first Kindle with a browser and you were complaining about it. But the K2 had a browser and the K3 browser isn't a unilateral step up in browsing. Personally, the K3 browser infuriates the heck out of me compared to the one on the K2. I wish we had an option of old or new browser on the K3. On the bright side, PDF support on the K3 is magical compared to the K2 and DX models.

01-27-2011, 03:40 PM	#20
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	I've never used a K2, so I can't weigh in on a comparison between the two browsers. I have used all three web sites that Steve mentioned a few posts back with my K3, and they are a tremendous help! It's great not having to zoom in to read the pages, and it makes the K3's browser a much more pleasant experience for me.

01-27-2011, 05:16 PM	#21
ApK Award-Winning Participant Posts: 7,402 Karma: 69116640 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ, USA Device: Kindle	Attitudes aside, I agree that, for it's role as a simple stripped down browser, the K2 had some advantages over the K3. The K3's web kit browsers seems to try to be too powerful and fails. I've posted here in several places about how much better my gmail experience is on our K2 than on the K3. As for what to do about it, write to kindle-feedback@amazon.com and suggest the changes you'd like to see. I'm still holding out hope for the browser in firmware version 3.0.4!

01-28-2011, 01:57 AM	#29
m0ngr31 Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 3056 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	<rant>Listen, I know your mad as us for all our "backslapping" and whatnot, but seriously? Do you have to get upset about everything? Go take your medication or something for crying out loud.</rant>

01-28-2011, 02:20 AM	#30
JeremyR Guru Posts: 973 Karma: 2458402 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis Device: Kindle Keyboard, Nook HD+	What I don't get, is why, if you have an iPad, are you trying to browse with a Kindle in the first place?