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Then he will be sentenced not because of his words ("you have no freedom of speech, you cannot yell 'Fire'"), but because of consequences. He will be blamed not in yelling, but in causing deaths directly.
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As it was said before, sometimes such laws are a bit dumb. E.g. in Russia 17-year-old may sleep with 14-year-old for a year, and then (when it will be 18 and 15) they should take a break for a year (until it will be 19 and 16), after which they are free to sleep together again.
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*offtop* By the way, communism itself does not contradict the freedom of speech. And there is not a lot of real-life communism implementations, so i wonder what made you think so.
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This is my third try at finding a US jurisdiction that permits child sexual abuse and I don't hear anyone telling me where it's legal. I hear people talking about 'draconian laws,' I hear people talking about 'busybodies intent on telling others how to conduct their lives,' and I hear people using semantics to say 'it's the result of the speech that is punishable. But I don't hear anyone acknowledging the fact that this man has been arrested for distributing child pornography. It will be up to the courts to decide if he's guilty or innocent of this charge. Stitchawl |
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Speech is the act itself. However, you're confusing act of shouting "Bomb" with setting up a bomb, and act of writing book about pedophiles with act of molesting children.
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What really frightens me about this whole episode is the "lynch mob" mentality that is rearing it's ugly head, not just here, but in the news and the actions of the state as well.
There seems to be a mentality of let's get him in prison for any reason because we don't like what he has written. That what they do in Iran and North Korea, not what should be done in a Democracy. Let's extend your thoughts to their logical conclusion, you must now want everybody arrested who writes in detail about murder, rape or robbery. They are illegal acts are they not? But I don't see you callng for all those authors to be arrested? Some of you have just proved to the educated world, what a bunch of ignorant hypocrites you really are. |
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But I'll pose a question to think about; do you (that's the editorial 'you,') believe that people have, under the 'right of free speech,' the right to publish child pornography? After all, isn't that what Freedom of Speech is all about? The right to say or print or publish anything at all, regardless of content? Or do you think Child Pornography shouldn't be permitted? What else shouldn't be permitted? How about publishing National secrets? Perhaps the routes for nuclear waste on public roads? Should THAT be published? ![]() Frankly, I think there are things that just should be allowed to be published. Stitchawl |
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So you are advocating arresting everyone who has written a how to make bombs book. Have I got that right?
What about "There is No Jesus" books? "How to Cheat the on Your Spouse and not get caught" "Pay No Income Tax!" I'm sure all those authors are law breakers too, eh? |
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