Unutterably Silly So what are you doing RIGHT NOW?

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Sony Laptops are SCREWY!!

Not too sure Dell are much better ....

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by recluse

Smoked brisket?

I wouldn't dare ask for a taste, but if you don't mind belching in my general direction, I'ed appreciate it, Shel.

You could use my mom's brisket as a doorstop.

A well made brisket is the food of the gods. That and some ambrosia and you you have a meal fit for Zeus. I actually had some last night at Smokey Bones.

BOb

[LCF]

You won't believe it. It worked from the first time!
Making final installations before taking an image, so I don't have to do it all over again

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by LCF

You won't believe it. It worked from the first time!
Making final installations before taking an image, so I don't have to do it all over again

Good for you. I wish I'd made an image of my system before I got all my data/photos/etc installed....way too big now.

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by dreams

Libby, Dennis, and Shell's husband are speaking another language.. Linux or something.

Or something. I've resisted the temptation to reach way back, and start speaking in MVS...
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Dennis

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by dsvick

Trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong with the share vs NTFS permissions on some network folders. You can tell how well that is going be my being here

I just went through a variant of that, after having to reinstall XP. A batch of files I'd copied in off an SD card wound up owned by the local system account and visible but not accessible from XP. The SD card was FAT32, which doesn't support the idea of ownership, and were copied over under my own account, so I've no idea what buggered the permissions.

Fixing it wasn't hard, just tedious, but I'd be happier to know why I had to.
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Dennis

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

A well made brisket is the food of the gods. That and some ambrosia and you you have a meal fit for Zeus. I actually had some last night at Smokey Bones.

I once worked for a big commercial printer. The offices were in an area where a lot of printers and related businesses had clustered. I'd go for lunch fairly frequently to a local bar that was a printer's hangout. The "specials" board outside would list the day's selections, like "Brisket, as only Mike can cook it!"

They were right. Mike's work would have fit right in in the sort of place that has stars in the Michelin Guide and you are rich enough to not care about the size of the check. He knew how to cook meat.

Food of the gods is a good description.
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Dennis

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

Or something. I've resisted the temptation to reach way back, and start speaking in MVS...
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Dennis

Shift Left Double Logical...

[devilsadvocate]

Originally Posted by LCF

In Acer (an probably other) laptops it's the program that recognises and activates the additional keys, such as volume controls, direct browser key, mail key, and so on. Problem is, win 7 is not oficially supported for my model (Aspire 5650) so I have to find a version that is old enugh to recognise my keys right and new enough to work under Win 7. Starting experiment now..

Originally Posted by LCF

You won't believe it. It worked from the first time!
Making final installations before taking an image, so I don't have to do it all over again

For future reference, if something doesn't have drivers for Win 7, equivalent Vista drivers are a safe bet since most of the nuts 'n' bolts of Win 7 are the same. Why it's taking everyone so long to catch up with drivers (or at least a note on the vendor's website stating a workaround) is beyond me.

Originally Posted by dsvick

Trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong with the share vs NTFS permissions on some network folders. You can tell how well that is going be my being here

What specifically isn't working?

Originally Posted by DMcCunney

Or something. I've resisted the temptation to reach way back, and start speaking in MVS...

It's almost an IT mashup...any networking guys/gals in the house?

MVS...old-school IBM virtual filesystem?



Hmmm...Still runs on z/OS; new versions of it appear to recognize the forward-slash path syntax of *nix-based filesystems (which would make sense given z/OS is a UNIX implementation). I look at that now compared to my own 6TB RAID-10 array (formatted XFS) and am reminded of Jevon's Paradox, wherein technological progress which increases the efficiency of resource actually increases the rate of consumption of that resource rather than decreasing it (which was ostensibly the goal of the innovation in the first place).

[kennyc]

I hate to interrupt this fascinating technical discussion, but must report that I've just completed a graphite drawing. (actually it's been languishing for a while). It was started well over a year ago, and has been mostly sitting. As I'm trying to figure out what to paint or draw next I figgured I might as well touch it up and call it done. It's called Portrait of Wall Street




There is something of an interesting story behind the photo (it is NOT one of mine) which is located here:

http://nullermanden.deviantart.com/gallery/#/dx7fnh

[recluse]

I am sitting here, doing nothing as if my life depended on it.
Which it does.
Sitting out on my deck with my feet up, letting the gentle sea breeze blow up the legs of my "anger" shorts (actually a pair of "Rangers" shorts that I removed the "R" and "s" from).
Sipping coffee,
COFFEE!
and reading.
Gonna head inside in a little while to make dinner.
Something unspeakably fabulous...
Spicy Horseradish MeatLoaf!
That's the ticket!
With sauteed zucchini and onions!
And garlic mashed potatoes!
The old flatulence is gonna be frisky tonight!

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by recluse

Smoked brisket?

I wouldn't dare ask for a taste, but if you don't mind belching in my general direction, I'ed appreciate it, Shel.

You could use my mom's brisket as a doorstop.

You're smart on that, Recluse. One of the girls at work threatened to take off with it and I "convinced" her it was NOT a smart idea. However, did you get the belch fumes?

Originally Posted by pilotbob

A well made brisket is the food of the gods. That and some ambrosia and you you have a meal fit for Zeus. I actually had some last night at Smokey Bones.

BOb

Amen, amen, and AMEN. Smoked brisket done right is...well....heaven. Not having a smoker and living in the Frozen North, I don't get it very often. If it wasn't for the also ex-patriate Texans around here, I'd NEVER get it. So I'm incredibly grateful when I do. I've tried liquid smoke and the oven, but it's just not the same.

[recluse]

Thanks, Shel!
I just hope my eyebrows grow back!


Kenny, your brilliance grows with each passing day!
Stunning!
Lifelike!
Slap earrings on it and it's my mom!

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by recluse

...
Slap earrings on it and it's my mom!

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

MVS...old-school IBM virtual filesystem?

More than just filesystem: it was IBM's top of the line mainframe OS. MVS and UNIX were polar opposites in the way the file system was implemented. UNIX just saw files in a hierarchal file system, and didn't especially care what they were - that was the job of whatever program used the file. MVS did care what a file was, and knew a good deal about the files and their contents and uses. So you got things like ISAM files (Indexed Sequential Access and Maintenance) files suitable for database use, and PDS (Partitioned Data Set) files whose members were what we might think of as individual files.

Despite mainframe origins, things like ISAM are still widely used. Until recent versions, for example, the ISAM file type (as MyISAM) was the default database file type used by MySQL. (The current default appears to be InnoDB, which looks a lot closer to a true relational database than ISAM is.)

Hmmm...Still runs on z/OS; new versions of it appear to recognize the forward-slash path syntax of *nix-based filesystems (which would make sense given z/OS is a UNIX implementation). I look at that now compared to my own 6TB RAID-10 array (formatted XFS) and am reminded of Jevon's Paradox, wherein technological progress which increases the efficiency of resource actually increases the rate of consumption of that resource rather than decreasing it (which was ostensibly the goal of the innovation in the first place).

z/OS is what IBM calls MVS these days, and is a lineal descendant. It's not quite a UNIX implementation: it's MVS with a POSIX compatible subsystem that looks and acts like UNIX, and is partially integrated with the main system. (The POSIX spec is based on UNIX.)

Years back, AT&T was still in the computer business, and entered into a joint venture with Sun Microsystems to create a converged version of UNIX that would marry the best parts of the AT&T System V and BSD flavors, under the direction of Sun R&D VP Bill Joy, who had been chief architect of BSD back when he was a grad student at UC Berkeley. UNIX licensees IBM and HP feared that the AT&T/Sun alliance would give them first look at the new code and a leg up in the UNIX marketplace, so AT&T spun off the UNIX division as separate entity called UNIX System Laboratories.

USL was later purchased by Novell when Ray Noorda was running the shop, but Novell never seemed to have a clear idea of what to do with it. When Noorda was removed as CEO, Novell sold USL to the Santa Cruz Operation. But they transferred the UNIX trademark to the X-Open Group. X-Open published a set of specifications called "Spec 1170" that defined what a UNIX system was, and any OS that could pass those tests was entitled to call itself UNIX, regardless of its origin. (I recall a no longer extant Linux distro actually spent the time and money to pass Spec 1170 and get that right.)

It was theoretically possible for IBM to modify MVS so that it would pass Spec 1170, and could be called UNIX. I was deeply amused when IBM did (though their goal was POSIX compatibility to make the Federal Government which was requiring POSIX in systems it purchased happy.)
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Dennis