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Old 09-05-2025, 06:41 AM   #1156
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The new method is not dependent on reverse engineering DRM and so cannot be quickly defeated by Amazon in the same way.
This is why I think it is actually better than trying to figure out the actual encryption. Amazon has to update or drop Kindle for PC to block it.

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What Amazon did stops Sat’s current software but it is still likely susceptible to the new approach of using Amazon’s own software to unlock the DRM.
I imagine someone is working on exactly that. Epubor at least if not Sats.
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I imagine someone is working on exactly that. Epubor at least if not Sats.
I was just about to test it, but I'm assuming BookFab works fine with K4PC 2.8.0 (70980) as well. This is because while Epubor is based on Sats's method, DVDFab developed their own. They remove the DRM by communicating with Amazon's servers.
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I was just about to test it, but I'm assuming BookFab works fine with K4PC 2.8.0 (70980) as well. This is because while Epubor is based on Sats's method, DVDFab developed their own. They remove the DRM by communicating with Amazon's servers.
BookFab's method doesn't work since Amazon stopped it.
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BookFab's method doesn't work since Amazon stopped it.
Pretty sure xyzzy_foo or someone reported that they got things working again somehow.
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Pretty sure xyzzy_foo or someone reported that they got things working again somehow.
They got it working again but with K4PC 2.8.0, according to an acquaintance of mine, it's again broken.
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I would not rely on BookFab to get this right. Even if they manage to fix it again, Amazon is just going to break it.
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I can get a Kindle Touch or a Paperwhite 7th gen relatively cheaply on ebay locally. Which,if either, would I be better off getting?
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I can get a Kindle Touch or a Paperwhite 7th gen relatively cheaply on ebay locally. Which,if either, would I be better off getting?
If you buy from eBay, you risk buying a blacklisted Kindle.
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Hi - Sorry, what is a blacklisted Kindle? I'm assuming that's bad? And if I can't buy one from ebay, where can I buy one that is unlikely to be blacklisted? (And of the 2, which would be better, if I decide to take the risk?) Thx 😊
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Hi - Sorry, what is a blacklisted Kindle? I'm assuming that's bad? And if I can't buy one from ebay, where can I buy one that is unlikely to be blacklisted? (And of the 2, which would be better, if I decide to take the risk?) Thx 😊
A blacklisted Kindle means it cannot ever be registered with Amazon. So it would do you no good for downloading eBooks.

They may not be blacklisted, but eBay tends to be a good source of blacklisted Kindles.
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How would one get hold of an earlier model kindle that is less likely to be blacklisted?
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Check on Amazon and see if any are available for sale.
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So Amazon themselves sell them? Which versions are the best to get?
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So Amazon themselves sell them? Which versions are the best to get?
A Kindle Paperwhite 5th Gen (aka PW1) or earlier. But no earlier then the Kindle 3 (aka Kindle keyboard).

Then when you download eBooks, you'll get KF8 format and not KFX.
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