|  09-04-2023, 06:03 AM | #1 | |
| eReader Wrangler            Posts: 7,949 Karma: 53216495 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Voyage | 
				
				Bad writing or is MY brain scrambled?
			 
			
			I decided to read one of my Kindle books I "bought" a few months ago (free with Amazon Prime) because it looked interesting. But the author has a habit of using past tense for what's happening in the present. Is the following bad writing, or is my brain just scrambled? I'm really having trouble focusing on the story because this keeps pulling me out of it. Here's a short passage... (near the beginning of Chapter One - my "corrections" in parentheses.) Quote: 
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|  09-04-2023, 06:42 AM | #2 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 8,005 Karma: 71261339 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Clara 2E | 
			
			To me, the past tense looks normal, and what I would expect.  Your present tense to me reads more like a play or direction. I believe past tense is the norm? The book I'm currently reading uses past tense. | 
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|  09-04-2023, 07:16 AM | #3 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2 | 
			
			Past tense has always been the norm and present tense a rare exception. Recently there seem to be more authors writing in the present tense, though, which I personally detest.
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|  09-04-2023, 07:30 AM | #4 | 
| The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠            Posts: 74,433 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis | 
			
			Past tense is normal.
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|  09-04-2023, 07:53 AM | #5 | 
| Still reading            Posts: 14,986 Karma: 111111111 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper | 
			
			Your brian is scumbled. Pease resit. Tags for dialogue (which itself is almost always present tense) are almost always in past tense. So much so that "He Said, She Said" is a common title*. Oddly "She Said, He Said" is less common, but I do have https://www.amazon.co.uk/She-Said-He...dp/B07ZG921DS/ A first person POV might use present tense, esp. Romance, though historically most first person POV used past tense, because story telling, even set in the future is recounting what has happened. A first person POV can work well, though often to make it more interesting the "narrator" can be unreliable. OTOH the entire narration and tags/actions outside of dialogue in present tense is very rare and tiring. Contrary to what some might think it doesn't add immersion. A novel isn't a screenplay or stage script. [* Though do Romance authors search existing titles? Just because you can, it doesn't mean using the same title is a good idea. Or similar ones such as "The <insert occupation or title here>'s Daughter".] Last edited by Quoth; 09-04-2023 at 08:09 AM. | 
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|  09-04-2023, 08:08 AM | #6 | 
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | 
			
			The past tense reads correctly and the present tense (corrections) reads oddly.
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|  09-04-2023, 09:26 AM | #7 | |||
| eReader Wrangler            Posts: 7,949 Karma: 53216495 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Voyage | Quote: 
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 Thanks everyone. It's weird that I just noticed this in this one book. I've never had this reaction before. Last edited by rcentros; 09-04-2023 at 09:29 AM. | |||
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|  09-04-2023, 09:35 AM | #8 | 
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | 
			
			Maybe you need more sleep and/or to drink more water.
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|  09-04-2023, 09:42 AM | #9 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2 | |
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|  09-04-2023, 10:29 AM | #10 | 
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|  09-04-2023, 10:32 AM | #11 | 
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|  09-04-2023, 10:43 AM | #12 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2 | Quote: 
  Or Mercury is in retrograde... or the muses were in a bad mood... or... or... Brain can do the weirdest things. | |
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|  09-04-2023, 10:57 AM | #13 | |
| Still reading            Posts: 14,986 Karma: 111111111 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper | Quote: 
 Certainly the directions must all be in the present tense. And any soliloquy breaking the 3rd wall would be present tense. A play, TV or movie unfolds in real time, except maybe for a flashback, which is still all in the present tense. Since you are long off caffeine it must be an "out of cheese error". Send Grommet out for more. | |
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|  09-04-2023, 10:58 AM | #14 | 
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|  09-04-2023, 06:10 PM | #15 | 
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