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Old 03-22-2021, 12:32 PM   #76
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Final check: block ota, put 5.12.4 to the usb-root and reboot. There must be an update error.
I've ran the script, rebooted, checked that both binaries are renamed and they have no processes running.

I put the update file to usb-root, the update kindle button was still grayed out.
I restarted my device and it updated itself to 5.12.4 again succesfully, so it seems like those binaries don't block updates.

Also, I answered your a PM if you didn't notice.
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Old 03-22-2021, 12:48 PM   #77
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I put the update file to usb-root, the update kindle button was still grayed out.
I restarted my device and it updated itself to 5.12.4 again succesfully, so it seems like those binaries don't block updates.
Bad news. Maybe, something KOA3 specific? Needs further investigation.
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If I had to choose between constantly having < 200MB space or having to keep airplane mode on, I'd definitely go for the latter. It's a really good idea though and it's definitely viable for somebody who only reads text-only books. For me, personally, the occasional manga readings would make this too much of a hassle.
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Old 03-22-2021, 05:42 PM   #80
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5.12.2.1: UNTESTED (PW2/KT2 exclusive firmware)
5.12.1.1: UNTESTED (KOA3 exclusive firmware)
5.11.1: UNTESTED (PW4 exclusive firmware)
Now we only have 3 untested firmware versions. A huge thanks to everybody who helped with testing, especially to @XFHjm9giV who went through 5 versions by themselves!

These 3 will be hard to test... especially 5.12.1.1 and 5.11.1.
If anybody has one of these 3 devices below or on the displayed firmware versions, please PM!
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Old 03-22-2021, 06:31 PM   #81
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5.3.7 UNTESTED (KT1)
5.3.7.1 UNTESTED (KT1)
5.3.7.2 UNTESTED (KT1)
5.3.7.3 UNTESTED (KT1)

5.6.1.1 UNTESTED (PW1)
I've also added entries for the final KT1 and PW1 firmwares because they can't be jailbroken with the first image. These won't hold back the new thread, I just thought I'd put them out there because it'd be better if this exploit worked on "every" device from the start. I know that jailbreaks for these devices and firmware versions already exist, but I thought it'd be nice to have 1 method for everything.

If anybody has a KT1 or PW1 (jailbroken or not, doesn't matter) and would like to help with testing, PM me!
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I've also added entries for the final KT1 and PW1 firmwares because they can't be jailbroken with the first image. These won't hold back the new thread, I just thought I'd put them out there because it'd be better if this exploit worked on "every" device from the start. I know that jailbreaks for these devices and firmware versions already exist, but I thought it'd be nice to have 1 method for everything.

If anybody has a KT1 or PW1 (jailbroken or not, doesn't matter) and would like to help with testing, PM me!
What is the earliest potential KV (Voyage) firmware?
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What is the earliest potential KV (Voyage) firmware?
I can generate images to any version from 5.3.0 to 5.13.3, it's just a matter of testing them. Since supporting every firmware in that range would take 16 images (which would involve a huge amount of testing), I decided to only support the latest firmwares for every device.

I don't see the reason why you wouldn't want to upgrade to a newer firmware, but if you can give me a good one then I don't mind testing and releasing ones for specific versions. I know that firmwares 5.12.x and above are immune to most OTA methods, but the image also supports 5.11.x so you don't have to give that up.
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I can generate images to any version from 5.3.0 to 5.13.3, it's just a matter of testing. Since supporting every firmware in that range would take 16 images (which would involve lots of testing), I decided to only support the latest firmwares for every device.

I don't see the reason why you wouldn't want to upgrade to a newer firmware, but if you can give me a good one then I don't mind releasing and testing ones for specific versions. I know that 5.12.x firmwares are immune to most OTA methods, but the image also supports 5.11.x so you're not forced to go 5.12.x.
Firmware 5.11 and greater are hostile to jailbreak.

Firmware 5.12 and greater are aggressively hostile to jailbreak.

Kindles are getting worse about books on the device not showing and the firmware seems to be getting flakier in general.

From my POV, anything beyond the latest 5.10.x is undesirable.

I concede that if you only do a 5.10.x for KV that would lock out people with a KV already beyond that.

I am not in a rush on the KV, so I might wait for the dust to settle or bite the bullet and try to do a serial port JB.

Thank you for all your work.
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:26 PM   #85
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Firmware 5.11 and greater are hostile to jailbreak.

Firmware 5.12 and greater are aggressively hostile to jailbreak.

Kindles are getting worse about books on the device not showing and the firmware seems to be getting flakier in general.

From my POV, anything beyond the latest 5.10.x is undesirable.

I concede that if you only do a 5.10.x for KV that would lock out people with a KV already beyond that.

I am not in a rush on the KV, so I might wait for the dust to settle or bite the bullet and try to do a serial port JB.

Thank you for all your work.
I don't think I want to start testing these right now, covering 5.9-5.10 would likely take 4-5 different images. If you have a specific firmware version in mind, I'm happy to help, sent you a PM!

Later down the line if more people want this, I'll consider testing all the versions, but it's definitely not priority right now.
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Old 03-23-2021, 12:59 AM   #86
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I think the last 5.10 (works with update.bin.tmp.partial folder blocker), last 5.11 (works with /var/local/system/SKIP_UPDATE_CHECK file) then going straight to 5.13.3 and skipping 5.12 would be the best options to support.
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Now we only have 3 untested firmware versions. A huge thanks to everybody who helped with testing, especially to @XFHjm9giV who went through 5 versions by themselves!

These 3 will be hard to test... especially 5.12.1.1 and 5.11.1.
If anybody has one of these 3 devices below or on the displayed firmware versions, please PM!
It's 100% brick-safe, nothing bad will happen.

PW4 is easy. We have a downgrade method for that which works up to 5.13.3. I'd be happy to test on one of my devices.
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PW4 is easy. We have a downgrade method for that which works up to 5.13.3. I'd be happy to test on one of my devices.
That would help a lot, sent PM!
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:37 AM   #89
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Seems like KT1 and PW1 jailbreak kits won't make it in time for the thread lanuch. Thanks to SKK we managed to test them on multiple different iterations of the image, and it seems like there is something different from newer devices other than the location of their GOT and W/E memory pages. I'm planning to further test these before I start with versions between 5.8.x - 5.10.x.

As for 5.11.1-5.13.3, we only need one version tested that's already queued up for later (today hopefully), so the new thread is imminent.
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FWIW, there'd possibly be a mild interest in a PW1 version because it's in a weird spot where the last FW version is not vulnerable to any JB, but vulnerable to the forced-downgrade-by-unplug method, which isn't terribly user-friendly (and as such, badly documented) .

Then again, it's the worst Kindle ever to grace the earth, so, meh .
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