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Old 01-22-2017, 11:49 AM   #1
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Calibre Can't Read Fire Books

I have been a Calibre user for many years, using the ASW format. Recently, I bought an Amazon Fire. I was able to connect it to Calibre, but Calibre was unable to read the data. I could not transfer fire books into my Calibre book collection.

What am I doing wrong?
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Old 01-22-2017, 05:01 PM   #2
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Two things. First, the DRM tools (if you have them) do not support kindle books on Fire tablets. So any books with DRM will not be usable.

Second, most books from Amazon delivered to a Fire tablet will be in the new KFX format which neither calibre nor the DRM tools currently support.
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Ah! I didn't know about KFX format. If I know Kovid, he'll want to fix that as soon as possible. In the meantime, I'll try to do some research on KFX. Thanks for the reply.
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:59 PM   #4
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In the meantime, I'll try to do some research on KFX.
Lots of KFX info here...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=263902
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Old 01-22-2017, 09:28 PM   #5
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Ah! I didn't know about KFX format. If I know Kovid, he'll want to fix that as soon as possible. In the meantime, I'll try to do some research on KFX. Thanks for the reply.
While adding support for reading KFX format books should be fairly easy to do, currently they are all DRMed so my motivation for doing so is not very high. As far as I know the only way to get hold of non-DRMed KFX files is to convert them from other formats, which makes adding the ability to convert from KFX to calibre fairly pointless. If in the future this changes and DRM-free KFX books become widely available, I will revisit.
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Old 01-23-2017, 05:20 PM   #6
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While adding support for reading KFX format books should be fairly easy to do, currently they are all DRMed so my motivation for doing so is not very high. As far as I know the only way to get hold of non-DRMed KFX files is to convert them from other formats, which makes adding the ability to convert from KFX to calibre fairly pointless. If in the future this changes and DRM-free KFX books become widely available, I will revisit.
The reason I was so interested is this. I have been using Calibre for years to catalog all my books (1200+). Without KFX, all my future books will be unable to be cataloged. This means, going forward, that I must stop using Calibre.

To me, it makes no difference if the books are DRMed. I use Calibre to catalog all my ebooks, and plan out my future reading schedule. Without KFX books, I will no longer be able to use Calibre to do this.

I hope you will reconsider installing KFX support, so it will allow me to continue using Calibre. KFX seems to be the next step towards the future of the ebook industry. It would be a darn shame for Calibre to be left behind.

Please reconsider.
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Thanks Brian. Very interesting reading. Hope I will be able to continue to use Calibre going forward. Right now, for me, it's sort of dead in the water. I can no longer use it to catalog my books. :-(
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@Ambermnk: You can add any file type you lie to calibre, including KFX. You just cannot convert it.
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:05 AM   #9
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@Ambermnk: You can add any file type you lie to calibre, including KFX. You just cannot convert it.
That would be fine. The problem is - I tried. Calibre did not recognize the format. Don't know what format the books are in, but they're on my Fire. What do you suggest?
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The only way to get actual book files from amazon these days is to go to your maange my kindle page on amazon and downlaod the book to your computer from there.
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The reason I was so interested is this. I have been using Calibre for years to catalog all my books (1200+). ...

To me, it makes no difference if the books are DRMed. I use Calibre to catalog all my ebooks, and plan out my future reading schedule. ...
I may be misunderstanding, but it seems to me that Ambermonk is asking for the ability to retrieve only the book metadata from the Fire tablet for cataloging in calibre, not the book contents.

It is potentially possible to implement this. KFX books on the Fire contain the same set of files as on an e-ink Kindle, just with different names and folder arrangement.

I have no interest in using or developing such a feature myself. I just wanted to clear up a possible misunderstanding.
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I may be misunderstanding, but it seems to me that Ambermonk is asking for the ability to retrieve only the book metadata from the Fire tablet for cataloging in calibre, not the book contents.

It is potentially possible to implement this. KFX books on the Fire contain the same set of files as on an e-ink Kindle, just with different names and folder arrangement.

I have no interest in using or developing such a feature myself. I just wanted to clear up a possible misunderstanding.
jhowell, you are correct.
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The only way to get actual book files from amazon these days is to go to your maange my kindle page on amazon and downlaod the book to your computer from there.
OK, I installed'Kindle for the PC,' and downloaded 3 books into the file. However, I can find no way to get Calibre to import them into its database.
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OK, I installed'Kindle for the PC,' and downloaded 3 books into the file. However, I can find no way to get Calibre to import them into its database.
I open the (default) folder: :my Kindle content and drag the AZW file onto calibre


Open a Single book in Kindle 4 PC: exit back to the 'library' view:
now open the "My kindle content" folder: Sort by Modified. The book (and associated files )should be at the top: Grab the AZW file
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OK, I installed'Kindle for the PC,' and downloaded 3 books into the file. However, I can find no way to get Calibre to import them into its database.
Not Kindle for PC the Manage your Content and devices page on amazon.com
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