Sci-fi and Fantasy paperback Door Stopper novels

jbcohen · 03-27-2016, 03:46 PM

For my purposes a door stopper novel is any hardback or paperback that are over 1000 pages in length. Thus it is possible for the paperback to qualify while the hardback does not. What are the best door stopper sci-fi and fantasy paperback door stoppers. These books are so big they could be used to prop open a door. Some of the candidates that come to mind are Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind and Brian Sanderson. However for my purposes I disqualify Robert Jordan since he is dead. For my purposes the author must be aliver and writting.

Dazrin · 03-27-2016, 04:14 PM

Here are the books I have read that are over 1000 pages and are science fiction or fantasy:

[Kingkiller Chronicles 2] Wise Man's Fear - Rothfuss, Patrick
[Stormlight Archive 1] The Way of Kings - Sanderson, Brandon
Cryptonomicon - Stephenson, Neal
Great North Road - Hamilton, Peter F.
1Q84 - Murakami, Haruki
[Commonwealth 2] Judas Unchained - Hamilton, Peter F.

There are also 5 books from The Wheel of Time (2 by Jordan alone, 3 with Brandon Sanderson) but I left them off. I enjoyed all of these.

mgbino · 03-27-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbcohen

For my purposes a door stopper novel is any hardback or paperback that are over 1000 pages in length. Thus it is possible for the paperback to qualify while the hardback does not. What are the best door stopper sci-fi and fantasy paperback door stoppers. These books are so big they could be used to prop open a door. Some of the candidates that come to mind are Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind and Brian Sanderson. However for my purposes I disqualify Robert Jordan since he is dead. For my purposes the author must be aliver and writting.

Ash by Mary Gentle (huge single volume epic fantasy)

Almost everything written by Peter F. Hamilton, but I suggest the Night's Dawn Trilogy (sci fi). Each book is massive.

The Stand by Stephen King

Almost every Tad Williams book is close to or over 1000 pages in paperback, or split at publication.

jbcohen · 03-28-2016, 10:50 AM

I have wondered about tad Williams. What's his writting like?

pwalker8 · 03-28-2016, 04:33 PM

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I have wondered about tad Williams. What's his writting like?

I read his Memory, Sorrow and Thorn series back when it first came out. I remember that it was really good and really depressing. It was one of the few series that I thought was good that I couldn't bring myself to re-read (though I might give it a shot since it's been a long time since I read them). I keep meaning to give the Shadowmarch series a try.

mgbino · 03-28-2016, 05:59 PM

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I have wondered about tad Williams. What's his writting like?

Descriptive. Most of his books could easily be a hundred or more pages shorter and lose nothing of the plot. That being said, I enjoy his prose enough that the extra description doesn't bother me.

I still think his Otherland series is one of the most brilliant works of sci-fi/fantasy ever written.

mewmartigan · 03-29-2016, 09:45 AM

I recently finished Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained by Peter F. Hamilton. It was good...one long story spread over 2 books. Each book is about 1000 pages.

Teknikal · 03-30-2016, 01:41 AM

I'd say the downright largest set of sci fi books I've ever read would easily be Harry Turtledoves World War series but I can't remember page counts and it was actually 7 large books for the whole thing. I'm including Homeward Bound and the colonization series.

I did enjoy it and found the whole plot idea kind of neat (basically alien invasion which happens during World War 2) but as a read it's similar to "A song of ice and fire" where you are constantly jumping between different characters each chapter and there gets to be a lot of characters to keep track off.

taosaur · 03-31-2016, 12:49 AM

The greatest science fiction novel to date, in my opinion, which coincidentally could also club rats of considerable (if not unusual) size, would be Neal Stephenson's Anathem.

mewmartigan · 03-31-2016, 11:46 AM

Anathem and Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson, has others have said, are great and over 1000 pages each.

Seveneves by Neal Stephenson is also very good at just under 900 pages....don't let the magic 1000 page threshold deter you from reading it.

JSWolf · 03-31-2016, 01:48 PM

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For my purposes a door stopper novel is any hardback or paperback that are over 1000 pages in length. Thus it is possible for the paperback to qualify while the hardback does not. What are the best door stopper sci-fi and fantasy paperback door stoppers. These books are so big they could be used to prop open a door. Some of the candidates that come to mind are Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind and Brian Sanderson. However for my purposes I disqualify Robert Jordan since he is dead. For my purposes the author must be aliver and writting.

A hardcover 1000 pages is different than a trade paperback 1000 pages is different than a mass market paperback 1000 pages is different than ADE 1000 pages.

So which definition of 1000 pages do you want to use?

JSWolf · 03-31-2016, 02:21 PM

Both Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained by Peter F. Hamilton are door stoppers. The good thing is they go together as a duology.

Dazrin · 03-31-2016, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbcohen

For my purposes a door stopper novel is any hardback or paperback that are over 1000 pages in length. Thus it is possible for the paperback to qualify while the hardback does not. What are the best door stopper sci-fi and fantasy paperback door stoppers. These books are so big they could be used to prop open a door. Some of the candidates that come to mind are Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind and Brian Sanderson. However for my purposes I disqualify Robert Jordan since he is dead. For my purposes the author must be aliver and writting.

A hardcover 1000 pages is different than a trade paperback 1000 pages is different than a mass market paperback 1000 pages is different than ADE 1000 pages.

So which definition of 1000 pages do you want to use?

I took the bolded sentence to mean "anything that is over 1000 pages, regardless of format has that many pages, will work", even though he didn't specify ADE pages as qualifying.

dickloraine · 03-31-2016, 05:37 PM

Haven't the accurate count, but Steven Eriksons Malazan books should be above 1000 pages. There are 10 books in the finished series. Ian Esslemont writes in the same Universe, most of his books are above the count too (6 more books). Both have started a new series in the universe each.

George R. R. Martins books are doorstoppers too and very good.

Fantasy is full of doorstoppers

The above series are together with Jordans among the longest (and best).

Tad Williams books are doorstoppers too and quite good. I liked the more sci fi otherworld books more than the fantasy books. The fantasy books are very well written, but very traditional and therefor little bit boring regarding the big story arch.

JSWolf · 03-31-2016, 07:07 PM

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I took the bolded sentence to mean "anything that is over 1000 pages, regardless of format has that many pages, will work", even though he didn't specify ADE pages as qualifying.

Yes, that's a good way to deal with differing page counts. Thanks.

03-27-2016, 03:46 PM	#1
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,032 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	Sci-fi and Fantasy paperback Door Stopper novels For my purposes a door stopper novel is any hardback or paperback that are over 1000 pages in length. Thus it is possible for the paperback to qualify while the hardback does not. What are the best door stopper sci-fi and fantasy paperback door stoppers. These books are so big they could be used to prop open a door. Some of the candidates that come to mind are Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind and Brian Sanderson. However for my purposes I disqualify Robert Jordan since he is dead. For my purposes the author must be aliver and writting.

03-27-2016, 04:14 PM	#2
Dazrin Wizard Posts: 2,729 Karma: 75825105 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: PDXish Device: Kindle Voyage, various Android devices	Here are the books I have read that are over 1000 pages and are science fiction or fantasy: [Kingkiller Chronicles 2] Wise Man's Fear - Rothfuss, Patrick [Stormlight Archive 1] The Way of Kings - Sanderson, Brandon Cryptonomicon - Stephenson, Neal Great North Road - Hamilton, Peter F. 1Q84 - Murakami, Haruki [Commonwealth 2] Judas Unchained - Hamilton, Peter F. There are also 5 books from The Wheel of Time (2 by Jordan alone, 3 with Brandon Sanderson) but I left them off. I enjoyed all of these.

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jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,032 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	I have wondered about tad Williams. What's his writting like?

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mewmartigan Guru Posts: 852 Karma: 8242060 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Kindle Oasis (2019)	I recently finished Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained by Peter F. Hamilton. It was good...one long story spread over 2 books. Each book is about 1000 pages.

03-30-2016, 01:41 AM	#8
Teknikal Fanatic Posts: 574 Karma: 5264318 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belfast Device: Sony T1, Note Pro 12.2, Honor 10	I'd say the downright largest set of sci fi books I've ever read would easily be Harry Turtledoves World War series but I can't remember page counts and it was actually 7 large books for the whole thing. I'm including Homeward Bound and the colonization series. I did enjoy it and found the whole plot idea kind of neat (basically alien invasion which happens during World War 2) but as a read it's similar to "A song of ice and fire" where you are constantly jumping between different characters each chapter and there gets to be a lot of characters to keep track off.

03-31-2016, 12:49 AM	#9
taosaur intelligent posterior Posts: 1,562 Karma: 21295618 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohiopolis Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2, Samsung S8, Lenovo Tab 3 Pro	The greatest science fiction novel to date, in my opinion, which coincidentally could also club rats of considerable (if not unusual) size, would be Neal Stephenson's Anathem.

03-31-2016, 11:46 AM	#10
mewmartigan Guru Posts: 852 Karma: 8242060 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Kindle Oasis (2019)	Anathem and Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson, has others have said, are great and over 1000 pages each. Seveneves by Neal Stephenson is also very good at just under 900 pages....don't let the magic 1000 page threshold deter you from reading it.

03-31-2016, 02:21 PM	#12
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,741 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Both Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained by Peter F. Hamilton are door stoppers. The good thing is they go together as a duology.

03-31-2016, 05:37 PM	#14
dickloraine Guru Posts: 631 Karma: 7544528 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Berlin Device: PRS 350, Kobo Aura	Haven't the accurate count, but Steven Eriksons Malazan books should be above 1000 pages. There are 10 books in the finished series. Ian Esslemont writes in the same Universe, most of his books are above the count too (6 more books). Both have started a new series in the universe each. George R. R. Martins books are doorstoppers too and very good. Fantasy is full of doorstoppers The above series are together with Jordans among the longest (and best). Tad Williams books are doorstoppers too and quite good. I liked the more sci fi otherworld books more than the fantasy books. The fantasy books are very well written, but very traditional and therefor little bit boring regarding the big story arch.

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