Calibre and Windows 7 Task Schedule problem.

[JayKindle]

Originally Posted by Glorfindel

Do you really need it to stop calibre? Because if not you could just have calibre started at login and not get news until whatever time you want.

Yes, because with my experience in the past, calibre will eat memory just on standby. In my situation, calibre will have to be running 24/7, which will result into memory problems.

Originally Posted by PeterT

I believe the issue is a change in design between Windows XP and subsequent versions affecting interactions between tasks and the desktop.

Hmm, I just tried to set it so it treats this program like WinXP, but the problem still exists.

Originally Posted by Glorfindel

Works just fine on my Win7 Home Premium 64bit

Can you share your settings? Can you take a screenshot of each window property in the task schedule for this entry? And how did you run the schedule?

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Perhaps you could try the command-line version of fetch news? Write a batch file to process each recipe you need.

Fetch News uses the ebook-convert executable, interestingly. You can feed it the .recipe format as the input file.

If that is what I will end up doing, can you help me write up this batch file?

[PeterT]

Originally Posted by JayKindle

Hmm, I just tried to set it so it treats this program like WinXP, but the problem still exists.

Maybe a better choice of words by me would have been ARCHITECTURE, in that the underlying architecture of Windows was changed and that saying "run as in XP" can NOT override those design choices.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by JayKindle

If that is what I will end up doing, can you help me write up this batch file?

Sure.

I know quite a bit about writing linux shell scripts, so I'd just have to familiarize myself with Windows syntax, since I never messed around with Windows the same way. Should be easy, they're pretty similar I believe.

[JayKindle]

Good news!

Calibe does run when scheduled. It seems that I had to enable a button in Windows Task Manager to Show processes from all users, when I did this, I saw calibre.exe running from a schedule run.

Now here is something odd:

For some reason the calibre app does not appear on my desktop running nor on the tray bar or quick bar. It seems to be hidden.

I currently don't have the option to have it run on the traybar, so I don't now what the hell? I guess the normal setup of running Calibre without any options will make it run in the background and hidden?

Is this normal? Or is this a new default feature when running apps with the Task Schedule in Win 7?

P.S. it seems you guys fixed the issue when getting an email update, it now links to the forum and not the mobile/mobi theme?

Quick update:
the schedule for calibre must run with this feature enabled: Run with highest privileges. Or else it will not run.

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by JayKindle

Calibe does run when scheduled. It seems that I had to enable a button in Windows Task Manager to Show processes from all users, when I did this, I saw calibre.exe running from a schedule run.

Now here is something odd:

For some reason the calibre app does not appear on my desktop running nor on the tray bar or quick bar. It seems to be hidden.

Just a guess, but since you had to show processes from all users it would seem Calibre is not running under your login so you wouldn't see it in the system tray.

Originally Posted by JayKindle

Is this normal? Or is this a new default feature when running apps with the Task Schedule in Win 7?

Again I'm guessing, but this must be a side effect of how you are running it, because it is not a feature of calibre.

Originally Posted by JayKindle

P.S. it seems you guys fixed the issue when getting an email update, it now links to the forum and not the mobile/mobi theme?

This is not a forum glitch that requires fixing. It seems to depend on how the thread was started or possibly how the last person posted to that thread. I occasionally get the thread email update for the .mobi instead of .com url. I simply change the .mobi to .com and go about my business.

Originally Posted by JayKindle

Quick update:
the schedule for calibre must run with this feature enabled: Run with highest privileges. Or else it will not run.

Thanks for the update.

[JayKindle]

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

Just a guess, but since you had to show processes from all users it would seem Calibre is not running under your login so you wouldn't see it in the system tray.

I only have one user on this account. Not even the guest is active. When creating the schedule, I see my user account name on it. And in the session for the task manager, it has my user account next to it.

Again I'm guessing, but this must be a side effect of how you are running it, because it is not a feature of calibre.

Come again? Please clarify.

This is not a forum glitch that requires fixing. It seems to depend on how the thread was started or possibly how the last person posted to that thread. I occasionally get the thread email update for the .mobi instead of .com url. I simply change the .mobi to .com and go about my business.

Since I started this thread on a PC. Then it might be that others replied above with a mobile or ipad? But I still think it's a forum bug. Please consult with your forum devs or the webmaster or admin of the site.

Thanks for the update.

no problem.

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by JayKindle

I only have one user on this account. Not even the guest is active. When creating the schedule, I see my user account name on it. And in the session for the task manager, it has my user account next to it.

Odd, why would you have to click see processes from all users if it is running under your user and not system.

Originally Posted by JayKindle

Since I started this thread on a PC. Then it might be that others replied above with a mobile or ipad? But I still think it's a forum bug. Please consult with your forum devs or the webmaster or admin of the site.

You'll have to bring this up in the feedback forum.

[JayKindle]

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

Odd, why would you have to click see processes from all users if it is running under your user and not system.

Yes, I also find this bizarre.

Maybe because I am using Windows 7 Starter version?

[Glorfindel]

@JayKindle: That would be me I was online using my kindle.

[Glorfindel]

So I guess you don't need the screenshots?

[JayKindle]

Originally Posted by Glorfindel

@JayKindle: That would be me I was online using my kindle.

Yes, it was you. The last post you made in this thread caused me to get a link to the *.mobi version. (see screenshot)

I still think this is a bug if the forum. It's like a language feature. The end user should receive the notification according to their setting.

So I guess you don't need the screenshots?

If you have time, go for it. Might be useful to someone else... At the same time, I will also compare it to mine.

One question for you? When you run calibre in a task schedule in Win 7? Does it run hidden?

[Glorfindel]

No it does not.

[Glorfindel]

How about an xml of the task?

[JayKindle]

UPDATE:

Still not out of the woods.

Today at 5:58 AM I had scheduled for Calibre to run, so it can start fetching News Feeds at 6:00am.

I set it to shut down after if it runs for more than 2 hrs. It usually takes no longer than 20 minutes to fetch the news, and then send them to my kindle's email address, so my unit can later download them.

Well, I did get successfully my news feeds on my kindle this morning. Went to check the PC after 8 am to see if calibre wasn't running anymore in Task Manager. It still was. Both calibre.exe and calibre-parallel.exe were running in Task Manager. I guess in idle, since it had finished completing the task, since I did get the only two news feeds I schedule for Wednesday to fetch.

I even put another schedule task session for calibre to shutdown, in case it wouldn't. I had programmed it to run at 7:00 a.m. The code is:

"C:\Program Files\Calibre2\calibre.exe" -s

Or should I also run a schedule task for calibre-parallel.exe to also shut down?

"C:\Program Files\Calibre2\calibre-parallel.exe" -s

So my question is how can I make sure calibre will shut down after an hour has passed? Anyone?

I still have the odd issue that Calibre runs hidden during the schedule task.

I did compare Glorfindel's xml file and mine, and the only major difference is that he is running Windows 7 (x86) and I am running Windows 7 Starter.

Hopefully the developer of Calibre can take a closer look into this problem. Or perhaps program calibre to be able to turn on and turn off, to compliment the news fetch feature for those like me that don't wish to have the app running 24/7.

[Glorfindel]

How much ram does calibre end up using? How much do you have?