Kindle Latest generation and Pdfs

asaxena11 · 08-20-2010, 12:40 PM

Hi,

I had to return my previous kindle (older generation) since the it was very difficult to read pdfs with images.

How is latest generation of kindle working with pdf. Does it have better reflow?

Thanks
amit

zoom6zoom · 08-20-2010, 01:11 PM

I guess we'll know after it starts shipping next week.

tomsem · 08-20-2010, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asaxena11

Hi,

I had to return my previous kindle (older generation) since the it was very difficult to read pdfs with images.

How is latest generation of kindle working with pdf. Does it have better reflow?

Thanks
amit

There's still no reflow.

K3 add support for password protected PDFs, text annotation and highlighting, and has a contrast adjustment. The latter might help with images, and color text, etc.

A couple of months ago they added PDF zoom/pan to K2/DX models. So that might be a new feature for you as well.

Still missing these PDF-related features:
- reflow
- link support (for TOC navigation etc.)
- 'search my items' does not include text in PDFs (beyond metadata - if you have the PDF open you can search text inside that)
- it remains to be seen whether any pre-existing PDF annotations will be editable, or if annotations added by Kindle will be viewable by other PDF viewers.

Sonist · 08-21-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

...

Still missing these PDF-related features:
- reflow
- link support (for TOC navigation etc.)
- 'search my items' does not include text in PDFs (beyond metadata - if you have the PDF open you can search text inside that)
- it remains to be seen whether any pre-existing PDF annotations will be editable, or if annotations added by Kindle will be viewable by other PDF viewers.

Wow!

I did not realize that Amazon is so dumb as not to include link support in the newest revision! So, no EPUB and no decent PDF support.

Link support is a must for reading anything with footnotes, otherwise it's impossible to go back and forth.

I was just about to order a Kindle DXG. This just killed the deal.

Is anyone else coming out with a large-screen Perl device soon?

Dave Berk · 08-22-2010, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonist

Is anyone else coming out with a large-screen Perl device soon?

Hopefully Sony. Though they have their own problems with PDF.

scenox · 08-22-2010, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Berk

Hopefully Sony. Though they have their own problems with PDF.

I thought amazon has an exclusive deal with the producers of the pearl screen to be the only company getting this screen until the end of the year?

tomsem · 08-22-2010, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scenox

I thought amazon has an exclusive deal with the producers of the pearl screen to be the only company getting this screen until the end of the year?

I don't think there is any definitive report about an exclusive deal, I think it is just speculation based on the fact that nobody else has announced that they'll be shipping a pearl screen. But time will tell. New Sony and Nook are expected soon.

tomsem · 08-22-2010, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonist

Wow!

I did not realize that Amazon is so dumb as not to include link support in the newest revision! So, no EPUB and no decent PDF support.

Link support is a must for reading anything with footnotes, otherwise it's impossible to go back and forth.

I was just about to order a Kindle DXG. This just killed the deal.

Is anyone else coming out with a large-screen Perl device soon?

Yeah, I don't see how they can avoid adding link support eventually (they seem to dribble out a couple of PDF features with each software update) but no telling when that might be, or if DXG will be a beneficiary of one.

dsip · 08-22-2010, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomsem

A couple of months ago they added PDF zoom/pan to K2/DX models.

So.. on a K2 I could read a pdf with the reader turned 90°, seeing the upper half of a page as one Kindle-page and then the lower half one as the next Kindle-page? Does it support cropping, if it does, does it work well?

tomsem · 08-22-2010, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsip

So.. on a K2 I could read a pdf with the reader turned 90°, seeing the upper half of a page as one Kindle-page and then the lower half one as the next Kindle-page? Does it support cropping, if it does, does it work well?

Whitespace is cropped in landscape orientation (zoomed to fit-to-width). It takes 3 page turns to navigate a letter-sized PDF page, with a little overlap between each.

Whitespace is also cropped when the document is zoomed (100%, 150%, 200%, 300%).

Put another way, whitespace is cropped in every viewing mode except portrait/fit-to-screen.

dsip · 08-23-2010, 07:49 AM

Thanks, very helpful.
I wish, they had added that functionality to the K1, too..

jakeh0 · 08-23-2010, 09:08 AM

i think that being able to set a custom zoom level should be a feature, zooming in around the margins of that specific PDF and the kindle would save the zoom setting for that particular file

JSWolf · 08-23-2010, 09:15 AM

There is not a single eink device with a 5 or 6" screen that does not have problems with PDF. If you really want to view letter sized PDF, forget it. It won't be any better then you've already experienced.

pboss · 08-23-2010, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomsem

I don't think there is any definitive report about an exclusive deal, I think it is just speculation based on the fact that nobody else has announced that they'll be shipping a pearl screen. But time will tell. New Sony and Nook are expected soon.

Awesome news. I thought Sony was leaving the ereader market because of the price war.

dsip · 08-26-2010, 01:24 PM

Is the K2's PDF functionality any different from the one of the K3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crgpr1LO7ns

?

08-20-2010, 12:40 PM	#1
asaxena11 Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: prs-700	Kindle Latest generation and Pdfs Hi, I had to return my previous kindle (older generation) since the it was very difficult to read pdfs with images. How is latest generation of kindle working with pdf. Does it have better reflow? Thanks amit

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zoom6zoom Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle 2	I guess we'll know after it starts shipping next week.

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dsip Connoisseur Posts: 77 Karma: 495694 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Between Devices..	Thanks, very helpful. I wish, they had added that functionality to the K1, too..

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jakeh0 Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: kindle2	i think that being able to set a custom zoom level should be a feature, zooming in around the margins of that specific PDF and the kindle would save the zoom setting for that particular file

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