Goofy IOS 4 questionS

Maggie Leung · 07-14-2010, 07:32 PM

I finally got around to loading iOS 4 on my aged iPhone 3G. I have no idea what the improvements are. Would you please gimme a few bullet points?

At this point, my iPad 3G has taken over most of my iPhone's functions, so I'm barely using it.

Separate question:

I bought the phone and have synced it only on one netbook the whole time. I've not synced it on my home laptop, because I worry that I will screw up something, lose some apps or such. Is there a smooth way to sync on both the netbook and laptop interchangeably, even when I take one or the other on the road and am not able to Home Share?

murraypaul · 07-15-2010, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Maggie Leung

I bought the phone and have synced it only on one netbook the whole time. I've not synced it on my home laptop, because I worry that I will screw up something, lose some apps or such. Is there a smooth way to sync on both the netbook and laptop interchangeably, even when I take one or the other on the road and am not able to Home Share?

Select the Manually manage music and video (or similar) option on the iThing summary screen in iTunes. You can then add media to it from any computer with iTunes.

Maggie Leung · 07-15-2010, 12:50 PM

Thanks, Murray. I was wondering whether that would work. Was chicken to risk losing programs.

Is there some way to create a copy of your existing apps setup and revert to it if something goes wrong?

Another goofy question: Do you know why iTunes will rearrange your apps when you sync or backup? It happens apparently randomly to me. Once, all my apps ended up scrambled, but accounted for. Yesterday, it moved about 10 of 'em. Annoying.

Sorry for dumb questions. I've avoided using iTunes for a long time.

dwharrison · 07-15-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggie Leung

I finally got around to loading iOS 4 on my aged iPhone 3G. I have no idea what the improvements are. Would you please gimme a few bullet points?

Here's a good summary:

http://www.tipb.com/2010/06/14/ios-4-walkthrough/

Just keep in mind that as a 3G owner, you don't get multitasking (or the portrait lock, which is tied to the task switching UI) or home screen backgrounds.

Maggie Leung · 07-15-2010, 03:23 PM

Thanks much, dwharrison. Very cool.

GlennD · 07-15-2010, 03:58 PM

The main things you get for your 3G (and the reasons I installed it on mine) are folders and iBooks. There's a few other smaller features but for the most part the bells and whistles are reserved for the 3Gs and higher.

I'd love to know why the screen backgrounds weren't doable on the 3G....

kjk · 07-15-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GlennD

I'd love to know why the screen backgrounds weren't doable on the 3G....

http://mashable.com/2010/06/22/iphone-3g-backgrounds/

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Steve’s answer was simple: “The icon animation with backgrounds didn’t perform well enough.”

kjk · 07-15-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggie Leung

I bought the phone and have synced it only on one netbook the whole time. I've not synced it on my home laptop, because I worry that I will screw up something, lose some apps or such. Is there a smooth way to sync on both the netbook and laptop interchangeably, even when I take one or the other on the road and am not able to Home Share?

Maggie, I don't think there is a way to sync everything on multiple computers.
You CAN sync different things on different computers (i.e. Contacts from one, Apps from another, etc.), but not the same stuff. If that makes any sense.
Pretty irritating actually.

Maggie Leung · 07-15-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kjk

Maggie, I don't think there is a way to sync everything on multiple computers.
You CAN sync different things on different computers (i.e. Contacts from one, Apps from another, etc.), but not the same stuff. If that makes any sense.
Pretty irritating actually.

Oy, yes. This is what I've been bumping into, my biggest gripe with iTunes. I'm off to make an iTunes voodoo doll.

Maggie Leung · 07-15-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GlennD

The main things you get for your 3G (and the reasons I installed it on mine) are folders and iBooks. There's a few other smaller features but for the most part the bells and whistles are reserved for the 3Gs and higher.

I'd love to know why the screen backgrounds weren't doable on the 3G....

Thanks, Glenn. Very good to know.

kjk · 07-15-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggie Leung

Oy, yes. This is what I've been bumping into, my biggest gripe with iTunes. I'm off to make an iTunes voodoo doll.

Yes. Ironically, I think the whole one-way nature (iTunes-->iPods) is rooted in the original DRM music agreements...they didn't want people using iPods to move DRM music to other computers.

Of course, now music is DRM free, and now that Apps, music, and movies can all be bought ON portable devices like the iPad and iPhone, Apple had to jury rig a solution to transfer device bought content back to iTunes...while still not just allowing us to use multiple iTunes libraries/computers, which would solve everything. Sigh.

Maybe when they finally move iTunes to the cloud, all this will be moot.

JSWolf · 07-15-2010, 10:35 PM

If you jailbreak iOS 4.0.1 on a 3G, you will get all the stuff Apple thinks you don't deserve (in order to get you to upgrade the hardware). You'll get multitasking and backgrounds. Plus, you'll get other neat stuff you don't get otherwise.

Jonimeesermann · 07-16-2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennD

The main things you get for your 3G (and the reasons I installed it on mine) are folders and iBooks. There's a few other smaller features but for the most part the bells and whistles are reserved for the 3Gs and higher.

I'd love to know why the screen backgrounds weren't doable on the 3G....

That is the main selling point that lure me to update my Touch. But since I have 8 gb "3g", which is just 2g hardware and 3.1.3 OS, Apple think I shouldn't get multitasking, background, and screen lock orientation.

I understand that maybe for stuff like multitasking it will be too heavy for my Touch hardware. But does screen orientation lock really that consuming resource? I don't think so. My previous jailbreak has orientation lock and there is no significant effect on battery life. And iBooks kind of useless for me now because I mainly read while laying in bed.

Maggie Leung · 07-16-2010, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you jailbreak iOS 4.0.1 on a 3G, you will get all the stuff Apple thinks you don't deserve (in order to get you to upgrade the hardware). You'll get multitasking and backgrounds. Plus, you'll get other neat stuff you don't get otherwise.

Thanks, JS. Jailbreaking probably isn't for me. I'm technically inept and am doing OK with what's available. I'm glad you posted, though, in case anyone else might need the info.

HarryT · 07-16-2010, 02:42 AM

If you use a lot of apps, the key benefit of iOS4 is the ability to put apps into folders. Also, you need iOS4 to run iBooks, which really is an extremely nice bookreader. You're not going to want to read "War and Peace" on it, but it's excellent for occasion quick reading.

07-14-2010, 07:32 PM	#1
Maggie Leung Wizard Posts: 1,449 Karma: 58383 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Kindle, iPad	Goofy IOS 4 questionS I finally got around to loading iOS 4 on my aged iPhone 3G. I have no idea what the improvements are. Would you please gimme a few bullet points? At this point, my iPad 3G has taken over most of my iPhone's functions, so I'm barely using it. Separate question: I bought the phone and have synced it only on one netbook the whole time. I've not synced it on my home laptop, because I worry that I will screw up something, lose some apps or such. Is there a smooth way to sync on both the netbook and laptop interchangeably, even when I take one or the other on the road and am not able to Home Share?

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07-15-2010, 12:50 PM	#3
Maggie Leung Wizard Posts: 1,449 Karma: 58383 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Kindle, iPad	Thanks, Murray. I was wondering whether that would work. Was chicken to risk losing programs. Is there some way to create a copy of your existing apps setup and revert to it if something goes wrong? Another goofy question: Do you know why iTunes will rearrange your apps when you sync or backup? It happens apparently randomly to me. Once, all my apps ended up scrambled, but accounted for. Yesterday, it moved about 10 of 'em. Annoying. Sorry for dumb questions. I've avoided using iTunes for a long time.

07-15-2010, 03:23 PM	#5
Maggie Leung Wizard Posts: 1,449 Karma: 58383 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Kindle, iPad	Thanks much, dwharrison. Very cool.

07-15-2010, 03:58 PM	#6
GlennD Wizard Posts: 2,114 Karma: 17500000 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Pacific NW Device: sony PRS350, iPhone, iPad	The main things you get for your 3G (and the reasons I installed it on mine) are folders and iBooks. There's a few other smaller features but for the most part the bells and whistles are reserved for the 3Gs and higher. I'd love to know why the screen backgrounds weren't doable on the 3G....

07-15-2010, 10:35 PM	#12
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,940 Karma: 144284074 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	If you jailbreak iOS 4.0.1 on a 3G, you will get all the stuff Apple thinks you don't deserve (in order to get you to upgrade the hardware). You'll get multitasking and backgrounds. Plus, you'll get other neat stuff you don't get otherwise.

07-16-2010, 02:42 AM	#15
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	If you use a lot of apps, the key benefit of iOS4 is the ability to put apps into folders. Also, you need iOS4 to run iBooks, which really is an extremely nice bookreader. You're not going to want to read "War and Peace" on it, but it's excellent for occasion quick reading.

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