Changes soon...Your comments please!

Alexander Turcic · 07-14-2003, 02:44 PM

Well, while being on a wonderful vacation I've been thinking about how we will continue our community and turcic.com.

We will definitely change the site layout and make it more userfriendly. All my personal content will be removed (morph).

We are *very* pleased with the increase in user interaction in the past months. Thanks a lot to everyone! Maybe it is time now to reconsider the restriction policy and find a more suitable way to foster activity without restricting access.

What do you think about ads? So far we have been very partial to ads, but earning some money to cover the costs of hosting wouldn't be a bad thing.

Anything else we forgot to mention?

Turcic.com Team

TadW · 07-14-2003, 08:12 PM

While I didn't mind the quite moderate restriction, I'd be happy if it is removed in future

I don't know about the ads. Are you sure they can generate enough revenue to cover the costs? In general, I find them rather ugly. Don't remember myself ever clicking on one of them...

renbud · 07-14-2003, 09:31 PM

I can live with some ads if it will help keep things going (heck, I'll even click on one every now and then to help) but I beg of you, please don't inflict those horrid pop-up ads on your loyal members!!!!

Alexander Turcic · 07-15-2003, 03:51 AM

Still not sure about the ads since I find them ugly. But definitely no popups; the worst I could bear would be one ad banner like Google's adsense.

zorro_ksig8 · 07-15-2003, 11:56 AM

I agree with the no popups, that is the last thing you would want to do.

I don't care about adds though, and if you need the resources I say go for it

jfs01 · 07-15-2003, 12:49 PM

I agree, no pop-ups. Wouldn't mind ads...

Griff · 07-15-2003, 04:51 PM

I generally dislike ads, but don't mind them, if that makes any sense. Before ads, I'd like to suggest again that you publish the WCC to Handango/Palmgear/PDAGreen for $2.95 or a couple dollars more.

I believe the WCC is something people would pay for, and it is certainly worth paying for. You could keep it free here, and charge for it elsewhere. I'd probably even go buy it the next time a new version is out.

gvtexas · 07-15-2003, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Griff
I believe the WCC is something people would pay for, and it is certainly worth paying for. You could keep it free here, and charge for it elsewhere. I'd probably even go buy it the next time a new version is out.

Just brainstorming here Griff (and these are not Alex's thoughts), but what if the new version of the WCC were *only* available for a fee at PalmGear, etc...and not available here for free any longer? Seems likely people would get p.o.'d if they paid only to discover it was free here with an easy registration....or perhaps it's only free here to those already registered...

Again, just a brainstorm (or the gaseous activity variety

)!

JSRunnels · 07-15-2003, 06:04 PM

You might also consider a prominent paypal button somewhere for those of us who might be moved to contribute out of pure goodwill. I have gotten enough info from this site in general, and help from you in particular that I would do that. As yet, I just haven't taken the time to find out if you have it set up already!

Griff · 07-15-2003, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gvtexas
Just brainstorming here Griff (and these are not Alex's thoughts), but what if the new version of the WCC were *only* available for a fee at PalmGear, etc...and not available here for free any longer? Seems likely people would get p.o.'d if they paid only to discover it was free here with an easy registration....or perhaps it's only free here to those already registered...

Again, just a brainstorm (or the gaseous activity variety )!

Hmm, the question to me is, how long does one get free updates if you have to pay for it? I personally wouldn't mind if it were only available for a fee however I wouldn't pay every time a new version came out. I suppose you'd have to have some way to determine major versions and charge only for those.

I think you'd find many people paying and then trading it with friends if it were only available for a fee. The idea behind charging at PG would be to attract people who don't already know about turcic. If they later found the site, fine, but I doubt many would be po'd if they paid $2.95 and then found they could've gotten it for free.

You could also make it available only to users who've registered here and have been registered for a certain period, maybe two weeks or some such. Those with patients who find the site will wait two weeks and get it for free, those who are impatient can go to PG to buy it, those who don't know what turcic is, will find it on PG during their search for ISilo or HandStory.

Aragorn · 07-15-2003, 07:16 PM

I can read or ignore ads as I please, but popups are intrusive, and if too frustrating, would lead me to other forums.

brahamt · 07-16-2003, 06:28 AM

Alexander, www.tivocommunity.com has sponsor links that seem to straddle the line between being noticeable and unobtrusive. I certainly would not mind the ads, but agree that pop-ups would be annoying.

jreifsnydr · 07-20-2003, 09:26 PM

I also like the idea of offering the opportunity for voluntary paypal donations. I've donated to a few other websites that, like this one, offer a clear value to those who use it. (And I vote against pop-up ads, too!!)

elveejay · 07-28-2003, 06:49 AM

I wouldn"t mind ads and would gladly pay a donation. My 2 cents.

cbarnett · 07-31-2003, 01:32 AM

I follow the general consensus. Pop ups will send me elsewhere so fast my nose will bleed, so please don't even consider them!

Having said that, less intrusive advertising would be ok, if it helps with keeping the site running as well as is it. Hell, I may even click on one of them every now and then!

Regards,
Craig.

07-14-2003, 02:44 PM	#1
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,171 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Changes soon...Your comments please! Well, while being on a wonderful vacation I've been thinking about how we will continue our community and turcic.com. We will definitely change the site layout and make it more userfriendly. All my personal content will be removed (morph). We are very pleased with the increase in user interaction in the past months. Thanks a lot to everyone! Maybe it is time now to reconsider the restriction policy and find a more suitable way to foster activity without restricting access. What do you think about ads? So far we have been very partial to ads, but earning some money to cover the costs of hosting wouldn't be a bad thing. Anything else we forgot to mention? Turcic.com Team

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TadW Uebermensch Posts: 2,583 Karma: 1094606 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Device: Kindle	While I didn't mind the quite moderate restriction, I'd be happy if it is removed in future I don't know about the ads. Are you sure they can generate enough revenue to cover the costs? In general, I find them rather ugly. Don't remember myself ever clicking on one of them...

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renbud Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 74 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Device: Axim X51v	I can live with some ads if it will help keep things going (heck, I'll even click on one every now and then to help) but I beg of you, please don't inflict those horrid pop-up ads on your loyal members!!!!

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Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,171 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Still not sure about the ads since I find them ugly. But definitely no popups; the worst I could bear would be one ad banner like Google's adsense.

07-15-2003, 11:56 AM	#5
zorro_ksig8 Member Posts: 24 Karma: 56 Join Date: Jan 2003	I agree with the no popups, that is the last thing you would want to do. I don't care about adds though, and if you need the resources I say go for it

07-15-2003, 12:49 PM	#6
jfs01 Enthusiast Posts: 35 Karma: 66 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD, USA Device: Sony Clie TH-55	I agree, no pop-ups. Wouldn't mind ads...

07-15-2003, 04:51 PM	#7
Griff Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 28 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston, TX Device: Clie NR70v	I generally dislike ads, but don't mind them, if that makes any sense. Before ads, I'd like to suggest again that you publish the WCC to Handango/Palmgear/PDAGreen for $2.95 or a couple dollars more. I believe the WCC is something people would pay for, and it is certainly worth paying for. You could keep it free here, and charge for it elsewhere. I'd probably even go buy it the next time a new version is out.

07-15-2003, 06:04 PM	#9
JSRunnels Enthusiast Posts: 47 Karma: 90 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Device: Samsung SPHI-300	You might also consider a prominent paypal button somewhere for those of us who might be moved to contribute out of pure goodwill. I have gotten enough info from this site in general, and help from you in particular that I would do that. As yet, I just haven't taken the time to find out if you have it set up already!

07-15-2003, 07:16 PM	#11
Aragorn Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 20 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So. Calif. Device: Sony Clie NR-70	I can read or ignore ads as I please, but popups are intrusive, and if too frustrating, would lead me to other forums.

07-16-2003, 06:28 AM	#12
brahamt Groupie Posts: 165 Karma: 6622 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Device: Palm Tungsten T3	Alexander, www.tivocommunity.com has sponsor links that seem to straddle the line between being noticeable and unobtrusive. I certainly would not mind the ads, but agree that pop-ups would be annoying.

07-20-2003, 09:26 PM	#13
jreifsnydr Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 28 Join Date: Jan 2003	I also like the idea of offering the opportunity for voluntary paypal donations. I've donated to a few other websites that, like this one, offer a clear value to those who use it. (And I vote against pop-up ads, too!!)

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07-28-2003, 06:49 AM	#14
elveejay Member Posts: 23 Karma: 50 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio, USA Device: Visor Prism; Tungsten TE	I wouldn"t mind ads and would gladly pay a donation. My 2 cents.

07-31-2003, 01:32 AM	#15
cbarnett MR prodigal son Posts: 1,085 Karma: 1083739 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O	I follow the general consensus. Pop ups will send me elsewhere so fast my nose will bleed, so please don't even consider them! Having said that, less intrusive advertising would be ok, if it helps with keeping the site running as well as is it. Hell, I may even click on one of them every now and then! Regards, Craig.