Slow response on 4 book collection

Tim G · 03-11-2010, 04:58 PM

Hi. I recently downloaded a 4 book collection from the SONY eBook store (about 1,400 pages long). No issues downloading and no issue uploading to the reader. But the book itself takes forever to open up on the reader. Eventually it does open and after moving very slowly through the first few pages it finally catches up and moves from page to page like normal. But then as I head into the next chapter the whole reader shuts down and heads back to start up mode, which puts me back on the library screen. I head back to the book and it tells me I can continue reading with page 1. My bookmarks do get saved, but it would be nice if it didn't shut down on me.

Since I haven't had any issues previsouly, I assume this has to be happening because of the size of the file. So my question is - How can I avoid this? Is there a way that I can break up my 1,400 page file into the 4 individual books? And its obviously its DRM protected.

Bremen Cole · 03-11-2010, 05:42 PM

Sorry, I can't help you at all. I do not use the Sony software or buy books from the Sony store...but.. I don't understand why they would put 4 books in one file. .....

I will say large files are slow, these readers do not exactly have cutting edge processors on them, and eInk is very slow to refresh the screen. I do have large files, and they are slow, but I have never had the "re-boot" issue you have... Hope someone can help you soon.

omk3 · 03-11-2010, 06:02 PM

1400 pages? What's the filesize of this thing?

I'm guessing your problem is the size, and maybe the inner structure of the epub is not optimal either...

To edit it in any way you would obviously have to remove the DRM first. But I don't know if there is any easy/automatic way to break it up, even then.

Welcome to MR, by the way

Ken401 · 03-11-2010, 06:49 PM

This is just an untested idea, but I wonder if the reader would respond differently if the file was on a meory card, or if on a memory card already, then on the internal memory.

I know my 505 will crash on large files (like a dictionary).

Maybe the file was not assembled correctly and a call to Sony would be in order since the sold the file for use on their hardware?

grooks · 03-11-2010, 10:38 PM

If the ebooks are offered individually, maybe Sony would be willing to provide to you in that way.

Mike_73 · 03-12-2010, 01:46 AM

Just to pick up the memory card thing:
Read and write speeds of the memory cards make a difference, allthough not too much.
There's a huge difference between memory card and internal reader memory.
I tried this once with a pdf and page load times were reduced by 50%. Initially, with the file on the card, a page turn was about 7 secs. On internal memory it was down to 3.5 secs.

As long as my files fit on the readers memory, I go with that.

Bremen Cole · 03-12-2010, 06:22 AM

Memory card are a non-issue for the OP, since they are using the PRS-300....

Ken401 · 03-12-2010, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bremen Cole

Memory card are a non-issue for the OP, since they are using the PRS-300....

...good point.

Tim G · 03-12-2010, 01:17 PM

Thanks for chiming in everybody. Didn't expect responses so quick.
Yes, PRS-300 does not take a memory card. I can try to contact SONY support. I was just hoping I could split into 4 files.
I guess this is what I get for trying to save money buying a collection, right? Haha.

Tim G · 03-12-2010, 01:51 PM

SONY support said there is no way it is an issue with the file size, and recommended that I delete and re-download the file. Great, thanks SONY. Like that wasn't the first thing I tried.

omk3 · 03-12-2010, 03:26 PM

It seems it's the first thing they recommend, whatever the problem

Even if it makes no sense at all...

Well, you can always see it as an opportunity to learn about removing drm and converting to other formats you can easily edit and then reconverting to epub... Wouldn't sony be happy that they drive people to such things, just because they don't want to test their books on their devices...

Mike_73 · 03-12-2010, 03:58 PM

I agree to the post above. If they don't mind the paying customer, I wouldn't mind their drm.

Tim G · 03-17-2010, 04:06 PM

Well I tried to re-download the file. It seemed slightly quicker at loading and moving page to page this time. But here I am again crashing when I move to a new chapter.
If I did look into removing the DRM, what program could I use to break us the file? I did't think Calibre could do that.

omk3 · 03-17-2010, 04:29 PM

We're not supposed to give specific instructions.
Have a look at this thread for a general discussion:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39423

grooks · 03-17-2010, 10:54 PM

Do a google search for 'ineptepub'

03-11-2010, 04:58 PM	#1
Tim G Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo WiFi	Slow response on 4 book collection Hi. I recently downloaded a 4 book collection from the SONY eBook store (about 1,400 pages long). No issues downloading and no issue uploading to the reader. But the book itself takes forever to open up on the reader. Eventually it does open and after moving very slowly through the first few pages it finally catches up and moves from page to page like normal. But then as I head into the next chapter the whole reader shuts down and heads back to start up mode, which puts me back on the library screen. I head back to the book and it tells me I can continue reading with page 1. My bookmarks do get saved, but it would be nice if it didn't shut down on me. Since I haven't had any issues previsouly, I assume this has to be happening because of the size of the file. So my question is - How can I avoid this? Is there a way that I can break up my 1,400 page file into the 4 individual books? And its obviously its DRM protected.

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03-11-2010, 05:42 PM	#2
Bremen Cole Wizard Posts: 1,115 Karma: 2718 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Device: iPad	Sorry, I can't help you at all. I do not use the Sony software or buy books from the Sony store...but.. I don't understand why they would put 4 books in one file. ..... I will say large files are slow, these readers do not exactly have cutting edge processors on them, and eInk is very slow to refresh the screen. I do have large files, and they are slow, but I have never had the "re-boot" issue you have... Hope someone can help you soon.

03-11-2010, 06:02 PM	#3
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	1400 pages? What's the filesize of this thing? I'm guessing your problem is the size, and maybe the inner structure of the epub is not optimal either... To edit it in any way you would obviously have to remove the DRM first. But I don't know if there is any easy/automatic way to break it up, even then. Welcome to MR, by the way

03-11-2010, 06:49 PM	#4
Ken401 Addict Posts: 218 Karma: 417978 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO USA Device: PRS-T1, PRS-950, PRS-505, Nexus 10, Xoom	This is just an untested idea, but I wonder if the reader would respond differently if the file was on a meory card, or if on a memory card already, then on the internal memory. I know my 505 will crash on large files (like a dictionary). Maybe the file was not assembled correctly and a call to Sony would be in order since the sold the file for use on their hardware?

03-11-2010, 10:38 PM	#5
grooks Wizard Posts: 1,326 Karma: 30250 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Myers, FL Device: Pocketbook Era, Kobo Forma	If the ebooks are offered individually, maybe Sony would be willing to provide to you in that way.

03-12-2010, 01:46 AM	#6
Mike_73 Guru Posts: 750 Karma: 1323 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: PRS-505, PRS-600, iPad 16GB Wifi, Kindle Voyage, Nexus 6, Razr HD	Just to pick up the memory card thing: Read and write speeds of the memory cards make a difference, allthough not too much. There's a huge difference between memory card and internal reader memory. I tried this once with a pdf and page load times were reduced by 50%. Initially, with the file on the card, a page turn was about 7 secs. On internal memory it was down to 3.5 secs. As long as my files fit on the readers memory, I go with that.

03-12-2010, 06:22 AM	#7
Bremen Cole Wizard Posts: 1,115 Karma: 2718 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Device: iPad	Memory card are a non-issue for the OP, since they are using the PRS-300....

03-12-2010, 01:17 PM	#9
Tim G Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo WiFi	Thanks for chiming in everybody. Didn't expect responses so quick. Yes, PRS-300 does not take a memory card. I can try to contact SONY support. I was just hoping I could split into 4 files. I guess this is what I get for trying to save money buying a collection, right? Haha.

03-12-2010, 01:51 PM	#10
Tim G Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo WiFi	SONY support said there is no way it is an issue with the file size, and recommended that I delete and re-download the file. Great, thanks SONY. Like that wasn't the first thing I tried.

03-12-2010, 03:26 PM	#11
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	It seems it's the first thing they recommend, whatever the problem Even if it makes no sense at all... Well, you can always see it as an opportunity to learn about removing drm and converting to other formats you can easily edit and then reconverting to epub... Wouldn't sony be happy that they drive people to such things, just because they don't want to test their books on their devices...

03-12-2010, 03:58 PM	#12
Mike_73 Guru Posts: 750 Karma: 1323 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: PRS-505, PRS-600, iPad 16GB Wifi, Kindle Voyage, Nexus 6, Razr HD	I agree to the post above. If they don't mind the paying customer, I wouldn't mind their drm.

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03-17-2010, 04:06 PM	#13
Tim G Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo WiFi	Well I tried to re-download the file. It seemed slightly quicker at loading and moving page to page this time. But here I am again crashing when I move to a new chapter. If I did look into removing the DRM, what program could I use to break us the file? I did't think Calibre could do that.

03-17-2010, 04:29 PM	#14
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	We're not supposed to give specific instructions. Have a look at this thread for a general discussion: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39423

03-17-2010, 10:54 PM	#15
grooks Wizard Posts: 1,326 Karma: 30250 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Myers, FL Device: Pocketbook Era, Kobo Forma	Do a google search for 'ineptepub'