Ghosting

Tscherno · 07-21-2006, 03:29 AM

What are your opinions about the ghosting of the display? I find it partial really annoying. I think they could reduce it if they refresh the display two times on an page flip. Of course this would make it slower, but they could offer it as an configurable option.

Riocaz · 07-21-2006, 05:40 AM

TBH the only time I notice it is the first page going from the menu into a file.

After that first page, it seems to clear up or at least become less noticable.

arivero · 07-21-2006, 05:51 AM

Eink has two update modes in the display, "slow" and "fast". (and it seems they are working in a third one, "partial"). The fast one gives ghosting. The slow one takes one second and in the librie it was the worst option because your eyes whent into a cicle of adaptation to changing contrast, very stressful IMO.

CommanderROR · 07-21-2006, 04:54 PM

I actually don't see ghosting apart from after I switch it on. I would have imagined that issue to be a lot more disturbing, but even if I search for it, I can't see it.

R2D2 · 07-21-2006, 05:16 PM

I get constantly ghosting when I view PDF. The screen is never fully refreshed in this mode.

vvoi666 · 07-21-2006, 05:17 PM

Quote:

I actually don't see ghosting apart from after I switch it on. I would have imagined that issue to be a lot more disturbing, but even if I search for it, I can't see it.

yeah, same here ... only in the menus at startup.
turning text pages show no ghosting (even when looking for it). no problem for everyday use.
might become a problem with pictures and graphs and pages with a lot of whitespace.

bingle · 07-21-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R2D2

I get constantly ghosting when I view PDF. The screen is never fully refreshed in this mode.

Does the ghosting disturb you in this mode? Or is it easily ignored?

tribble · 07-21-2006, 08:32 PM

I can see a bit ghosting if i concentrate on it. But noz´thing that bothers really. Sometimes, after a long time with not switching pages, ghosting is worse, but almost gone with next pageflip

R2D2 · 07-22-2006, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bingle

Does the ghosting disturb you in this mode? Or is it easily ignored?

It depends. Sometimes it really disturbs me (if there are graphics on the page). It would be sufficient if I could initiate a manual screen refresh or if we could set our preferred screen refresh method in the preferences.

Pitchfork · 07-22-2006, 12:15 PM

It seems that the pages slowly darken a little when the device is left for a while. This is quite clear to see in the configuration page when you move the selection up or down, a white area appears where the previous selection was. I have started flipping back and forth before reading when the device has been on charge. This lightens the screen and removes the ghosting.

High 5 · 07-22-2006, 06:07 PM

Try writing on a blank page, then open a new blank page.
Your old writing will be visible for at least 15 seconds or more.
Funny thing is..
The ghosted drawing is brighter then the screen itself and then slowly fades to the same white-gray as the background.

branko · 07-22-2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High 5

Try writing on a blank page, then open a new blank page.
Your old writing will be visible for at least 15 seconds or more.
Funny thing is..
The ghosted drawing is brighter then the screen itself and then slowly fades to the same white-gray as the background.

Have you got a photo of that? (Pretty please?)

High 5 · 07-23-2006, 03:04 AM

Ok, pictures coming up:

branko · 07-23-2006, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High 5

Ok, pictures coming up:

But those are actual ghosts!!!

/me hides behind the sofa.

TadW · 07-23-2006, 10:39 AM

High5, I am afraid to say so, but I think your iLiad is possessed!!

07-21-2006, 03:29 AM	#1
Tscherno iLiad Geek Posts: 110 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Regensburg / Germany Device: iLiad #505; Sony T1, Amazon Paperwhite first Gen & sec is coming!	Ghosting What are your opinions about the ghosting of the display? I find it partial really annoying. I think they could reduce it if they refresh the display two times on an page flip. Of course this would make it slower, but they could offer it as an configurable option.

07-23-2006, 03:04 AM	#13
High 5 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Posts: 152 Karma: 501 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Netherlands Device: Rocket ebook,Cybook, Hiebook, Iliad	Ok, pictures coming up: Attached Thumbnails

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07-21-2006, 05:40 AM	#2
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	TBH the only time I notice it is the first page going from the menu into a file. After that first page, it seems to clear up or at least become less noticable.

07-21-2006, 05:51 AM	#3
arivero Guru Posts: 607 Karma: 2157 Join Date: Oct 2005 Device: NCR3125, Nokia 770,...	Eink has two update modes in the display, "slow" and "fast". (and it seems they are working in a third one, "partial"). The fast one gives ghosting. The slow one takes one second and in the librie it was the worst option because your eyes whent into a cicle of adaptation to changing contrast, very stressful IMO.

07-21-2006, 04:54 PM	#4
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	I actually don't see ghosting apart from after I switch it on. I would have imagined that issue to be a lot more disturbing, but even if I search for it, I can't see it.

07-21-2006, 05:16 PM	#5
R2D2 Mad Scientist Posts: 294 Karma: 242 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Device: Zaurus, HTCMagician, iLiad	I get constantly ghosting when I view PDF. The screen is never fully refreshed in this mode.

07-21-2006, 08:32 PM	#8
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	I can see a bit ghosting if i concentrate on it. But noz´thing that bothers really. Sometimes, after a long time with not switching pages, ghosting is worse, but almost gone with next pageflip

07-22-2006, 12:15 PM	#10
Pitchfork Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 31 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spain Device: Iliad/Ipaq 6340	It seems that the pages slowly darken a little when the device is left for a while. This is quite clear to see in the configuration page when you move the selection up or down, a white area appears where the previous selection was. I have started flipping back and forth before reading when the device has been on charge. This lightens the screen and removes the ghosting.

07-22-2006, 06:07 PM	#11
High 5 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Posts: 152 Karma: 501 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Netherlands Device: Rocket ebook,Cybook, Hiebook, Iliad	Try writing on a blank page, then open a new blank page. Your old writing will be visible for at least 15 seconds or more. Funny thing is.. The ghosted drawing is brighter then the screen itself and then slowly fades to the same white-gray as the background.

07-23-2006, 10:39 AM	#15
TadW Uebermensch Posts: 2,583 Karma: 1094606 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Device: Kindle	High5, I am afraid to say so, but I think your iLiad is possessed!!

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