Is there a port of Sunrise to php?

Snappy! · 04-26-2006, 10:21 AM

Is there a port of Sunrise to php? If there is, then those with their own site can convert an ebook using their webserver.

This has the advantage of:

1. It can be a cron job so one's own pc is not occupied
2. It may be faster especially if grabbing html files is concerned
3. No messy installation on pc. Granted, the php file(s) had better be clean.

So is there any existing port of sunrise to php already?

Chaos · 04-26-2006, 07:45 PM

I'm pretty certain it would be almost impossible to port Sunrise to PHP... Original Sunrise is Java based, and new Sunrise is... C/C++/C# I think (one of the three, I believe)? Also Sunrise XP is, according to what I've seen Laurens post, very dependant on XP's features.

I think your best bet is looking at either the Perl or Python Plucker parsers, and using those as a starting point for a CGI script.

Snappy! · 04-26-2006, 08:12 PM

ic ... thanks for the tip!

Alexander Turcic · 04-27-2006, 03:40 AM

I agree though it'd be nice if there was a Linux binary of a command line version of Sunrise. This could then be used with PHP to write some pretty impressive Sunrise-related Web applications. ;=)

Laurens · 04-27-2006, 03:48 AM

Funny, you should ask that. I am actually designing a web application right now for fetching news remotely. It's targeted at the new e-ink devices, as it supports PDF as its output format. Not sure if I'm going to put much effort into it. This is mainly an excercise for me to catch up with the latest Java Enterprise APIs, since it's been some time since I last worked with those.

Snappy! · 04-27-2006, 06:42 AM

Yeap, having it in linux could make things pretty interesting and can be further expanded to grab sites and convert to plucker format or even pdf directly.

Laurens, you prob know and are using it already, php has some built-in libraries for pdf support http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pdf.php

Alexander Turcic, I code in C/C++ natively but picked up php three years back and with the flexibility of php, it should port over nicely. Granted, if the current sunrise uses specific windows apis, then it may not be a simple port but may require other apis to be written. Maybe its time to take a look at porting sunrise to php ... or maybe just get perl based plucker ported to php?

Alexander Turcic · 04-27-2006, 06:45 AM

@Snappy: I think it'd be sufficient to offer a Linux C binary of Sunrise, which you could then call via any Web application such as Perl or PHP. iSilo already offers such as a command-line tool.

@Laurens: You rock! But are you sure you want to work in Java again?

Laurens · 04-27-2006, 07:05 AM

Sunrise XP cannot be easily ported to cross-platform code. I already knew the Windows API, so that was the logical choice for this project. Cross-platform programming is not that easy in C++ and definitely more time-consuming. I think there is a cross-platform C++ parser in the Plucker CVS, you might want to look at that instead. I've never used it, though.

I've used PHP briefly, but didn't like it much. If you already know Java server-side programming (Servlets + JSP and related libs like Spring, Hibernate, etc.), then PHP is a huge step backwards. OTOH, PHP is a better choice if you don't know Java yet.

Alexander Turcic · 04-27-2006, 07:42 AM

Grin

I found that Java server was a resource hog (especially Tomcat).

Sawtooth · 04-28-2006, 04:04 PM

The Plucker C++ parser is here. Plucker CVS access is documented here.

It "works", but don't expect perfect conversions, and XHTML is not supported (shouldn't be that difficult to implement, at least for (very?) basic support, using the current HTML parsing code. I tried, but couldn't get the encoded characters to show up correctly. Note that I don't know C++, though

). There's some trial & error required to set it up, too (some parameters don't work the way they are documented). I also remember I had trouble getting the images to convert.

04-26-2006, 10:21 AM	#1
Snappy! Addict Posts: 260 Karma: 4256 Join Date: Feb 2006 Device: SHARP Zaurus C1000	Is there a port of Sunrise to php? Is there a port of Sunrise to php? If there is, then those with their own site can convert an ebook using their webserver. This has the advantage of: 1. It can be a cron job so one's own pc is not occupied 2. It may be faster especially if grabbing html files is concerned 3. No messy installation on pc. Granted, the php file(s) had better be clean. So is there any existing port of sunrise to php already?

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04-26-2006, 07:45 PM	#2
Chaos Evangelist Posts: 418 Karma: 281 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Device: Assorted older devices	I'm pretty certain it would be almost impossible to port Sunrise to PHP... Original Sunrise is Java based, and new Sunrise is... C/C++/C# I think (one of the three, I believe)? Also Sunrise XP is, according to what I've seen Laurens post, very dependant on XP's features. I think your best bet is looking at either the Perl or Python Plucker parsers, and using those as a starting point for a CGI script.

04-26-2006, 08:12 PM	#3
Snappy! Addict Posts: 260 Karma: 4256 Join Date: Feb 2006 Device: SHARP Zaurus C1000	ic ... thanks for the tip!

04-27-2006, 03:40 AM	#4
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	I agree though it'd be nice if there was a Linux binary of a command line version of Sunrise. This could then be used with PHP to write some pretty impressive Sunrise-related Web applications. ;=)

04-27-2006, 03:48 AM	#5
Laurens Jah Blessed Posts: 1,295 Karma: 1373 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Device: iPod Touch	Funny, you should ask that. I am actually designing a web application right now for fetching news remotely. It's targeted at the new e-ink devices, as it supports PDF as its output format. Not sure if I'm going to put much effort into it. This is mainly an excercise for me to catch up with the latest Java Enterprise APIs, since it's been some time since I last worked with those.

04-27-2006, 06:42 AM	#6
Snappy! Addict Posts: 260 Karma: 4256 Join Date: Feb 2006 Device: SHARP Zaurus C1000	Yeap, having it in linux could make things pretty interesting and can be further expanded to grab sites and convert to plucker format or even pdf directly. Laurens, you prob know and are using it already, php has some built-in libraries for pdf support http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pdf.php Alexander Turcic, I code in C/C++ natively but picked up php three years back and with the flexibility of php, it should port over nicely. Granted, if the current sunrise uses specific windows apis, then it may not be a simple port but may require other apis to be written. Maybe its time to take a look at porting sunrise to php ... or maybe just get perl based plucker ported to php?

04-27-2006, 06:45 AM	#7
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	@Snappy: I think it'd be sufficient to offer a Linux C binary of Sunrise, which you could then call via any Web application such as Perl or PHP. iSilo already offers such as a command-line tool. @Laurens: You rock! But are you sure you want to work in Java again?

04-27-2006, 07:05 AM	#8
Laurens Jah Blessed Posts: 1,295 Karma: 1373 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Device: iPod Touch	Sunrise XP cannot be easily ported to cross-platform code. I already knew the Windows API, so that was the logical choice for this project. Cross-platform programming is not that easy in C++ and definitely more time-consuming. I think there is a cross-platform C++ parser in the Plucker CVS, you might want to look at that instead. I've never used it, though. I've used PHP briefly, but didn't like it much. If you already know Java server-side programming (Servlets + JSP and related libs like Spring, Hibernate, etc.), then PHP is a huge step backwards. OTOH, PHP is a better choice if you don't know Java yet.

04-27-2006, 07:42 AM	#9
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Grin I found that Java server was a resource hog (especially Tomcat).

04-28-2006, 04:04 PM	#10
Sawtooth Member Posts: 10 Karma: 90 Join Date: Sep 2005 Device: Sony Clié SJ22	The Plucker C++ parser is here. Plucker CVS access is documented here. It "works", but don't expect perfect conversions, and XHTML is not supported (shouldn't be that difficult to implement, at least for (very?) basic support, using the current HTML parsing code. I tried, but couldn't get the encoded characters to show up correctly. Note that I don't know C++, though ). There's some trial & error required to set it up, too (some parameters don't work the way they are documented). I also remember I had trouble getting the images to convert.

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