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Old 11-13-2009, 04:22 AM   #1
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Into epub i see little numbers.
These numbers are like page numbers, I think
But these numbers change using different readers.
This is a property of EPUB or the reader?
There is a setting because they are always the same for all readers?
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Old 11-13-2009, 04:58 AM   #2
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Into epub i see little numbers.
These numbers are like page numbers, I think
If you are using Adobe Digital Editions (and it sounds like you are), then, yes, those are page numbers.

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But these numbers change using different readers.
Interesting. That is not supposed to be the case. The page numbers are supposed to be universal (e.g., page 200 of a book is the same on the Desktop, the Sony PRS-505, and the Astak Pocket Pro).

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This is a property of EPUB or the reader?
There is a setting because they are always the same for all readers?
If you are asking, "is there is a way to no display the page numbers?", then the answer is no.
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:11 AM   #3
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If you are using Adobe Digital Editions (and it sounds like you are), then, yes, those are page numbers.



Interesting. That is not supposed to be the case. The page numbers are supposed to be universal (e.g., page 200 of a book is the same on the Desktop, the Sony PRS-505, and the Astak Pocket Pro).



If you are asking, "is there is a way to no display the page numbers?", then the answer is no.
In one epub i see different number
using my opus and the bebook of frend of mine.

If i use go to number XY i go in different point of epub.
So under opus cybook and bebook the numbers are different.

It is a different setting of reader?
May I force to have the same numbers ?
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:26 AM   #4
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Something funny going at there. ADE page numbers should be consistent across all devices. They certainly are with the devices that I have!
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Typically, these are not included in the ePub, and then they are imposed by the reading software. Some of them do them differently than others, hence what you're seeing.

It is also possible to put a "page-map" inside the ePub to force the numbers to appear at certain points, though strictly speaking this is supposed to be an Adobe-only extension, and it'll make your ePub fail an ePub check. It works though, although some reading software (calibre, Stanza) will ignore them.

You can read about it in this thread:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53195

LoganK is incorrect technically; you can get rid of these, but there are significant costs. See the thread.

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Old 11-13-2009, 09:17 AM   #6
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Typically, these are not included in the ePub, and then they are imposed by the reading software. Some of them do them differently than others, hence what you're seeing.

It is also possible to put a "page-map" inside the ePub to force the numbers to
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:08 PM   #7
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Speaking of that.
I bough a few books when the editor a put some larger right margin, in an attempt not to overlap onto page numbers. That's pretty lame. I hate having to edit my book to fix that....

What went into the mind of the people at adobe when they did that ?
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What went into the mind of the people at adobe when they did that ?
I don't mind the standard ADE numbers at all, in fact I prefer having them, particularly on readers that do not display the page number continuously.
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:36 PM   #9
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It would be nice to be able to have the option to turn them off, though.

On all my ePub books I set a 13pt right margin. This is sufficient to avoid the page number overlapping the text, but still not large enough (for me, at least) to look overly-wide.
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It would be nice to be able to have the option to turn them off, though.

On all my ePub books I set a 13pt right margin. This is sufficient to avoid the page number overlapping the text, but still not large enough (for me, at least) to look overly-wide.
True, better to have the option.
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In one epub i see different number
using my opus and the bebook of frend of mine.
Hmm, that is not supposed to be the case. Are you sure it exactly the same (byte-to-byte) EPUB?
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Hmm, that is not supposed to be the case. Are you sure it exactly the same (byte-to-byte) EPUB?
Different software definitely puts these in different places for ePubs that don't contain a page map. Actually, the details are given in the thread I linked to above.
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Different software definitely puts these in different places for ePubs that don't contain a page map. Actually, the details are given in the thread I linked to above.
True, but the same file on different ereaders will be the same. It is all based on a character count (that apparently includes the markup tags, etc).
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Different software definitely puts these in different places for ePubs that don't contain a page map. Actually, the details are given in the thread I linked to above.
Is there any renderer, except for Adobe's, that supports those?
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Confusing when on the one hand we discover Adobe's "ePub best practice" that mentions the use of PageMap, and then a couple of posts including Do not use page mapping on epubcheck stating the OPF specs do not allow PageMap to be used.

Implying that only ADE will allow use of the page map....

So much for a 'standard' .....
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