International Kindle & Alternate Dictionary

alterego · 10-22-2009, 11:25 AM

Hi =),

I have been thinking for several months to buy an eBook device.

My first priority while looking for them was that i could use this dictionary while reading books: http://www.mobipocket.com/EN/eBooks/...p?BookID=24744. I bought the book and i have been using in my computer and palm with no problems.

In my research i found out DRM Mobipocket books can't be used in a lot of devices. I first wanted an iLiad but couldn't find one for sale and ship to México. Then i started to look at the cyBook but it didn't convinced me.

I started to look at other options and liked the Kindle a lot, because now its easy to ship internationally and we have many features available in my country.

After some research I managed to 'create' a version of the dictionary in question without encryption. Now i have a .mobi file and if i understand correctly i can use it in the Kindle.

I also read in this forum there are some restrictions with the default dictionary in Kindle. Does anyone knows if there is a way i could use the dictionary i mentioned as default in Kindle? I don't mind if i have to put some (or a lot of) work in converting the dictionary or stuff like that, but i don't want to buy the device if it will be impossible for me, despite the amount of work and research, to use the search function in my dictionary while reading books.

Thank you in advance for you time.
Have a nice day =D.
Abi

Ea · 10-22-2009, 11:45 AM

It's possible to add a different dictionary. I just now added one to my new Kindle. It has to be in prc or mobi format and de-DRM'd (I assume that's what you have).

I think you can only have one dictionary at a time - i.e. the one set to default. This user added an English-German dictionary:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=288

You just add the dictionary to the other books and then you can set it to default.

pdurrant · 10-22-2009, 12:10 PM

You can set the default dictionary to any (non-DRMed) mobipocket dictionary you have. I added my Chambers dictionary, set it to be default, and now it uses that instead of the American dictionary it comes with.

It uses the default both for the 'quick lookup' that pops up at the bottom of the page, and also when you choose to go to the full dictionary page. (Where you also have access to a search of the dictionary by typing what you want to look up.)

I'm very pleased with the dictionary lookup on the Kindle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alterego

Does anyone knows if there is a way i could use the dictionary i mentioned as default in Kindle? I don't mind if i have to put some (or a lot of) work in converting the dictionary or stuff like that, but i don't want to buy the device if it will be impossible for me, despite the amount of work and research, to use the search function in my dictionary while reading books.

alterego · 10-22-2009, 12:14 PM

Oh, ty so much for both your answers.

Yes, i have a de-DRM'd dictionary now =D.
I will buy the device then & keep you posted in my results with the dictionary.

Again ty both & have a nice day!!!!
Abi

wallcraft · 10-22-2009, 12:17 PM

It is possible to create your own "simple" MOBI dictionary, and these are reported to work on the Kindle. For example, see change primary dictionary to English2Chinese.

What isn't typically possible is to use a commercial MOBI dictionary on the Kindle. Even without the DRM, these dictionaries usually invoke MOBI features that are not supported on the Kindle.

However, there are now a few primary translation dictionaries for sale in the Kindle store. At Amazon, browse the following list (currently 13 results):

Kindle Store › Kindle Books › Reference › Dictionaries & Thesauruses › Kindle Default Dictionaries

Ea · 10-22-2009, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

What isn't typically possible is to use a commercial MOBI dictionary on the Kindle. Even without the DRM, these dictionaries usually invoke MOBI features that are not supported on the Kindle.

I used an English-English Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictonary which I'd de-DRM'd. THere might be features I can't use on the Kindle, but it can certainly look up words.

wallcraft · 10-22-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

I used an English-English Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictonary which I'd de-DRM'd.

And pdurrant reported success with a Chambers dictionary. So perhaps I am being overly pessimistic. In any case, either the Spanish MOBI dictionary works or there is a Kindle Store alternative, so buying a Kindle appears safe.

alterego · 10-22-2009, 09:34 PM

Ty again for all your feedback.

I decided i am going to buy it.
I report back the results (hope it doesn't take too long to arrive =D).

Have an awesome night.
Abi

Ea · 10-23-2009, 04:11 AM

It may be worth being aware that users of the Spanih-English dictionaries from Amazon generally have problems:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?ur...nary&x=17&y=21

Sounds like it's a problem of the Kindle with displaying diacritical signs. So perhaps it's not able to display your dictionary.

Adamastorx · 10-28-2009, 12:35 PM

I have the Spanish mobi dictionary mentioned above (Diccionario de la Real Academia Española) y el Merriam-Webster's English-Spanish from Amazon. I can't use the quick lookup in the mobi dictionary, though I can search within the dictionary. The Amazon one works perfectly.

Terisa de morgan · 10-28-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

What isn't typically possible is to use a commercial MOBI dictionary on the Kindle. Even without the DRM, these dictionaries usually invoke MOBI features that are not supported on the Kindle.

Not really, a person I know used at his kindle an English - Spanish dictionary bought at Fictionwise.

fugazied · 10-28-2009, 07:41 PM

Excellent tip, I really needed a Spanish-English dictionary, currently learning my second language, hadn't even thought about using the Kindle to help!

rfog · 10-29-2009, 05:04 AM

I think I'm the person's Terisa is talking about (

).

I have the Cambridge Klett English-Spanish purchased a bunch of years ago in Fictionwise and de-DRMed and it works in my 3 Kindles (US, Intl and DX).

I purchased the Chambers English-Spanish (that is the same as the Harrap but cheaper -at least the day I purchased it) for my US and DX Kindles, de-DRMed it and put in my Intl one.

Both works as integrated and as normal opened in all three Kindles (And Klett worked in mi iLiad and DR1000).

By the way, about DRM (and for those that will complain about de-DRM an ebook) I think if I purchase a book I can wear it whatever I go. I do not lend ebooks, do not put them in internet, but if I have 4 device, I think in can use it in all of them. It's my [e]book and I'm the only reader. If this does not like to the big corporations it's their problem. RFOG dixit

Terisa de morgan · 10-29-2009, 05:32 AM

Well, I wasn't talking about you really but it's the same

And I think the same about DRM. I don't throw them to Darknet, but I've three devices, with different formats and I use them in different situations. Nobody avoids I move my paperbook, why are they going to do it with my e-books? And if they do an awful work with books (BW plain cover why? ), why can't I improve it? They don't avoid me to cover the paperbook.

Adamastorx · 10-29-2009, 06:08 AM

Terisa,

have you tried the Spanish dictionary from Real Academia? I can use it, de-DRMed, but I can't use the quick lookup while I'm reading a text like with the default dictionary or other bilingual dictionaries, where you just live the cursor near a word and the meaning will pop-up. Is there a way to do this?

10-22-2009, 11:25 AM	#1
alterego Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindle	International Kindle & Alternate Dictionary Hi =), I have been thinking for several months to buy an eBook device. My first priority while looking for them was that i could use this dictionary while reading books: http://www.mobipocket.com/EN/eBooks/...p?BookID=24744. I bought the book and i have been using in my computer and palm with no problems. In my research i found out DRM Mobipocket books can't be used in a lot of devices. I first wanted an iLiad but couldn't find one for sale and ship to México. Then i started to look at the cyBook but it didn't convinced me. I started to look at other options and liked the Kindle a lot, because now its easy to ship internationally and we have many features available in my country. After some research I managed to 'create' a version of the dictionary in question without encryption. Now i have a .mobi file and if i understand correctly i can use it in the Kindle. I also read in this forum there are some restrictions with the default dictionary in Kindle. Does anyone knows if there is a way i could use the dictionary i mentioned as default in Kindle? I don't mind if i have to put some (or a lot of) work in converting the dictionary or stuff like that, but i don't want to buy the device if it will be impossible for me, despite the amount of work and research, to use the search function in my dictionary while reading books. Thank you in advance for you time. Have a nice day =D. Abi Last edited by alterego; 10-22-2009 at 11:28 AM.

10-29-2009, 05:04 AM	#13
rfog Guru Posts: 696 Karma: 2383012 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Schiedam (The Netherlands) Device: Lots of eInk devices and iOS stuff	I think I'm the person's Terisa is talking about (). I have the Cambridge Klett English-Spanish purchased a bunch of years ago in Fictionwise and de-DRMed and it works in my 3 Kindles (US, Intl and DX). I purchased the Chambers English-Spanish (that is the same as the Harrap but cheaper -at least the day I purchased it) for my US and DX Kindles, de-DRMed it and put in my Intl one. Both works as integrated and as normal opened in all three Kindles (And Klett worked in mi iLiad and DR1000). By the way, about DRM (and for those that will complain about de-DRM an ebook) I think if I purchase a book I can wear it whatever I go. I do not lend ebooks, do not put them in internet, but if I have 4 device, I think in can use it in all of them. It's my [e]book and I'm the only reader. If this does not like to the big corporations it's their problem. RFOG dixit

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10-22-2009, 11:45 AM	#2
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	It's possible to add a different dictionary. I just now added one to my new Kindle. It has to be in prc or mobi format and de-DRM'd (I assume that's what you have). I think you can only have one dictionary at a time - i.e. the one set to default. This user added an English-German dictionary: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=288 You just add the dictionary to the other books and then you can set it to default.

10-22-2009, 12:14 PM	#4
alterego Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindle	Oh, ty so much for both your answers. Yes, i have a de-DRM'd dictionary now =D. I will buy the device then & keep you posted in my results with the dictionary. Again ty both & have a nice day!!!! Abi

10-22-2009, 12:17 PM	#5
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	It is possible to create your own "simple" MOBI dictionary, and these are reported to work on the Kindle. For example, see change primary dictionary to English2Chinese. What isn't typically possible is to use a commercial MOBI dictionary on the Kindle. Even without the DRM, these dictionaries usually invoke MOBI features that are not supported on the Kindle. However, there are now a few primary translation dictionaries for sale in the Kindle store. At Amazon, browse the following list (currently 13 results): Kindle Store › Kindle Books › Reference › Dictionaries & Thesauruses › Kindle Default Dictionaries

10-22-2009, 09:34 PM	#8
alterego Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindle	Ty again for all your feedback. I decided i am going to buy it. I report back the results (hope it doesn't take too long to arrive =D). Have an awesome night. Abi

10-23-2009, 04:11 AM	#9
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	It may be worth being aware that users of the Spanih-English dictionaries from Amazon generally have problems: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?ur...nary&x=17&y=21 Sounds like it's a problem of the Kindle with displaying diacritical signs. So perhaps it's not able to display your dictionary.

10-28-2009, 12:35 PM	#10
Adamastorx Connoisseur Posts: 55 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kindle 2 International	I have the Spanish mobi dictionary mentioned above (Diccionario de la Real Academia Española) y el Merriam-Webster's English-Spanish from Amazon. I can't use the quick lookup in the mobi dictionary, though I can search within the dictionary. The Amazon one works perfectly.

10-28-2009, 07:41 PM	#12
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	Excellent tip, I really needed a Spanish-English dictionary, currently learning my second language, hadn't even thought about using the Kindle to help!

10-29-2009, 05:32 AM	#14
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,581 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Well, I wasn't talking about you really but it's the same And I think the same about DRM. I don't throw them to Darknet, but I've three devices, with different formats and I use them in different situations. Nobody avoids I move my paperbook, why are they going to do it with my e-books? And if they do an awful work with books (BW plain cover why? ), why can't I improve it? They don't avoid me to cover the paperbook.

10-29-2009, 06:08 AM	#15
Adamastorx Connoisseur Posts: 55 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kindle 2 International	Terisa, have you tried the Spanish dictionary from Real Academia? I can use it, de-DRMed, but I can't use the quick lookup while I'm reading a text like with the default dictionary or other bilingual dictionaries, where you just live the cursor near a word and the meaning will pop-up. Is there a way to do this?

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