Question for people who know about handicrafts

HarryT · 10-08-2009, 12:05 PM

While proof-reading my latest Dickens book ("Hard Times"), I came across this:

Quote:

Mrs. Sparsit netting at the fireside, in a side-saddle attitude, with one foot in a cotton stirrup...

and then, later on:

Quote:

Mrs. Sparsit, easily ambling along with her netting-needles...

Would anyone who is conversant with handicrafts care to speculate whether "netting" is an old word for what we'd now call "knitting", or does it refer to some other type of craft?

AnemicOak · 10-08-2009, 12:13 PM

From what I can find it different than knitting, but possibly similar.

I found reference to some books that seem to indicate this...

Misses Watts : The Ladies' Knitting and Netting Book for 1837 (1837 John Miland)
Jane Gaugain : Miniature Knitting, Netting & Crochet Book (1843)
Misses Watts : Selections of Knitting, Netting & Crochet Work (1843)
Mr Hope & Mrs George Curling : Book of Babies' Wardrobe in Knitting & Netting (1844)
http://www.booksandwriters.co.uk/wri...efore-1910.asp

AnemicOak · 10-08-2009, 12:15 PM

Perhaps this will help...
http://books.google.com/books?id=4mY...age&q=&f=false

HarryT · 10-08-2009, 12:20 PM

Thank you, that's very useful. By the sound of it, it's something along the same lines as knitting and crochet, but a little different. Is it a craft that's fallen out of use, do you know? I'd certainly never heard of it until I came across this reference!

AnemicOak · 10-08-2009, 12:26 PM

Never heard of it either...

http://knotsindeed.blogspot.com/search/label/netting

Elsi · 10-08-2009, 12:27 PM

Netting is a form of needle lace. The lace is stitched onto a mesh referred to as "net". See an example at http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/ID/FiletID.html

There are some instructions online. See http://www.geocities.com/monstonitru...eedlelace.html for a fair introduction.

desertgrandma · 10-08-2009, 12:28 PM

Heres another explanation, with pictures. Its most definitely NOT knitting or crocheting>

http://www.knitheaven.com/vintagepat...structions.htm

HarryT · 10-08-2009, 12:33 PM

Thanks to all - I'm now a lot more knowledgeable about "netting" than I was half an hour ago!

desertgrandma · 10-08-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Thanks to all - I'm now a lot more knowledgeable about "netting" than I was half an hour ago!

Well, its not like it was anything you, as a man, would have done anytime in history!

HarryT · 10-08-2009, 12:36 PM

No, but I had (wrongly) assumed that it was an old word for "knitting". It's always nice to be educated about these things. That's one of the reasons I enjoy reading 19th century novels - it was a totally different world then, and I'm always coming across interesting pieces of information, like this, and learning something new.

desertgrandma · 10-08-2009, 01:03 PM

I"m currently reading all of the Poirot mysteries. I keep coming across "tisane" (his favorite beverage) and "Bath bun". Thats apparently something people liked to eat with their tea.

What the heck is a "Bath bun"?? I keep getting images of people eating in the tub..............

HarryT · 10-08-2009, 01:07 PM

It's a sugary bread product. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_bun

"tisane" baffled me for a while, too, but I recently learned that it's the French word for "herbal tea".

AnemicOak · 10-08-2009, 01:07 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_bun

desertgrandma · 10-08-2009, 01:09 PM

ouch. Makes my teeth hurt just reading about it........

kenmark · 10-08-2009, 02:05 PM

Netting reminded me immediately of 'tatting' or 'tat', which I've encountered numerous times in crosswords. The history of 'tatting' in the wiki makes reference to a possible origin from 'netting'.

This is a very peculiar 'thread'.

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10-08-2009, 12:13 PM	#2
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	From what I can find it different than knitting, but possibly similar. I found reference to some books that seem to indicate this... Misses Watts : The Ladies' Knitting and Netting Book for 1837 (1837 John Miland) Jane Gaugain : Miniature Knitting, Netting & Crochet Book (1843) Misses Watts : Selections of Knitting, Netting & Crochet Work (1843) Mr Hope & Mrs George Curling : Book of Babies' Wardrobe in Knitting & Netting (1844) http://www.booksandwriters.co.uk/wri...efore-1910.asp

10-08-2009, 12:15 PM	#3
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Perhaps this will help... http://books.google.com/books?id=4mY...age&q=&f=false

10-08-2009, 12:20 PM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thank you, that's very useful. By the sound of it, it's something along the same lines as knitting and crochet, but a little different. Is it a craft that's fallen out of use, do you know? I'd certainly never heard of it until I came across this reference!

10-08-2009, 12:26 PM	#5
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Never heard of it either... http://knotsindeed.blogspot.com/search/label/netting

10-08-2009, 12:27 PM	#6
Elsi Wizard Posts: 2,366 Karma: 12000 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas, USA Device: Kindle; Sony PRS 505; Blackberry 8700C	Netting is a form of needle lace. The lace is stitched onto a mesh referred to as "net". See an example at http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/ID/FiletID.html There are some instructions online. See http://www.geocities.com/monstonitru...eedlelace.html for a fair introduction.

10-08-2009, 12:28 PM	#7
desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Heres another explanation, with pictures. Its most definitely NOT knitting or crocheting> http://www.knitheaven.com/vintagepat...structions.htm

10-08-2009, 12:33 PM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thanks to all - I'm now a lot more knowledgeable about "netting" than I was half an hour ago!

10-08-2009, 12:36 PM	#10
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No, but I had (wrongly) assumed that it was an old word for "knitting". It's always nice to be educated about these things. That's one of the reasons I enjoy reading 19th century novels - it was a totally different world then, and I'm always coming across interesting pieces of information, like this, and learning something new.

10-08-2009, 01:03 PM	#11
desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	I"m currently reading all of the Poirot mysteries. I keep coming across "tisane" (his favorite beverage) and "Bath bun". Thats apparently something people liked to eat with their tea. What the heck is a "Bath bun"?? I keep getting images of people eating in the tub..............

10-08-2009, 01:07 PM	#12
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's a sugary bread product. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_bun "tisane" baffled me for a while, too, but I recently learned that it's the French word for "herbal tea".

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10-08-2009, 01:09 PM	#14
desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	ouch. Makes my teeth hurt just reading about it........

10-08-2009, 02:05 PM	#15
kenmark Addict Posts: 204 Karma: 250000 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Great White North Device: PRS-505	Netting reminded me immediately of 'tatting' or 'tat', which I've encountered numerous times in crosswords. The history of 'tatting' in the wiki makes reference to a possible origin from 'netting'. This is a very peculiar 'thread'.