Anyone know the difference in these books?

gshipley · 09-01-2009, 04:19 PM

Priced at 9.99 and can't be purchased?

http://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Gold-e...1835853&sr=1-9

Price at 14.82 and is available for purchase:
http://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Gold/d...48/ref=ed_oe_k

I called amazon and they said the 9.99 was a preorder price and now the price is 14.82???? When did this start happening?

Shame on them.

susan_cassidy · 09-01-2009, 05:15 PM

I don't know about those, but I think that Amazon's book database is getting to be a mess. I emailed them the other day because when I search for John Scalzi's "Zoe's Tale", I get 3 listings, one of which is "not currently available", with 3 different ASINs, and 2 different prices. How are we supposed to know which is the best/most current? Why aren't the old ones removed? There has to be a better way for them to manage this.

I was thinking the other day that maybe they were keeping old versions because of the bookmarks/notes situation: if you have copy A of a book, and your bookmarks/notes are at location x, but if the book were updated, your bookmarks/notes would not match the locations. I think this problem could be overcome, though, by keeping the extra revisions of the book unlisted, and just track them for re-download, or come up with a mechanism to tell the user that their bookmarks might be out of date, or something.

One of the great possible benefits of ebooks is that you should theoretically be able to dynamically update the books if there are corrections, but they don't seem to be doing this at Amazon.

Terisa de morgan · 09-02-2009, 03:00 AM

Both of them, now, are at 9.99 (although with different original prices)

Lilly · 09-02-2009, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

Both of them, now, are at 9.99 (although with different original prices)

They were, for about an hour, now Amazon changed the 2nd price to $16.82!

Terisa de morgan · 09-02-2009, 07:24 AM

I bet one is American and the other one English. My God, this is worse than getting bargains at a supermarket

gshipley · 09-02-2009, 09:27 AM

Things like this are very strange and I have started noticing this a lot lately. Multiple listings for the same exact book with different prices. Very confusing to the user!

etienne66 · 09-02-2009, 12:34 PM

Now the first one is available and the second one isn't. I also noticed that it is 2 different publishers. The first is available from the Penguin Group for $9.99 and the other is from Putnam Adult with no price listed and not available.

Etienne66

Elfwreck · 09-02-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Digital List Price: $16.00
Print List Price: $26.95
Kindle Price: $9.99 & includes wireless delivery via Amazon Whispernet
You Save: $16.96 (63%)

No, you save $6.01.

Note the prices for Zoe's Tale:
Hardcover List Price: $24.95
Price: $16.47
You Save: $8.48 (34%)

MMPBack List Price: $7.99
Price: $7.99

Kindle Digital List Price: $14.00
Kindle Price: $9.99

Funny, they don't claim that you "save" $14.96 for the Kindle edition of that one. (They don't even bother telling you that you save $4.01.)

AnemicOak · 09-02-2009, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elfwreck

Digital List Price: $16.00
Print List Price: $26.95
Kindle Price: $9.99 & includes wireless delivery via Amazon Whispernet
You Save: $16.96 (63%)

No, you save $6.01.

It's Amazon math

bwaldron · 09-02-2009, 04:55 PM

Not to mention a second Kindle version of Zoe's Tale
at $6.39 ("saving" $1.60).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elfwreck

No, you save $6.01.

Note the prices for Zoe's Tale:
Hardcover List Price: $24.95
Price: $16.47
You Save: $8.48 (34%)

MMPBack List Price: $7.99
Price: $7.99

Kindle Digital List Price: $14.00
Kindle Price: $9.99

Funny, they don't claim that you "save" $14.96 for the Kindle edition of that one. (They don't even bother telling you that you save $4.01.)

Leep · 09-02-2009, 05:00 PM

I'm getting a headache!!

cheers

bxrLvr · 09-08-2009, 05:04 PM

having the same issues between these two:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Androids-D...BO/ref=ed_oe_k
http://www.amazon.com/The-Androids-D...74/ref=ed_oe_k

the first is 2 bucks cheaper, shows the same page #'s, but no size.. does that mean its in tpz format?

susan_cassidy · 09-08-2009, 07:32 PM

Usually means Topaz. Get the sample and check, if you have Whispernet.

poohbear_nc · 09-09-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bxrLvr

having the same issues between these two:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Androids-D...BO/ref=ed_oe_k
http://www.amazon.com/The-Androids-D...74/ref=ed_oe_k

the first is 2 bucks cheaper, shows the same page #'s, but no size.. does that mean its in tpz format?

Today both of your links are priced at $7.99.

09-01-2009, 04:19 PM	#1
gshipley Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Kindle	Anyone know the difference in these books? Priced at 9.99 and can't be purchased? http://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Gold-e...1835853&sr=1-9 Price at 14.82 and is available for purchase: http://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Gold/d...48/ref=ed_oe_k I called amazon and they said the 9.99 was a preorder price and now the price is 14.82???? When did this start happening? Shame on them.

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09-01-2009, 05:15 PM	#2
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	I don't know about those, but I think that Amazon's book database is getting to be a mess. I emailed them the other day because when I search for John Scalzi's "Zoe's Tale", I get 3 listings, one of which is "not currently available", with 3 different ASINs, and 2 different prices. How are we supposed to know which is the best/most current? Why aren't the old ones removed? There has to be a better way for them to manage this. I was thinking the other day that maybe they were keeping old versions because of the bookmarks/notes situation: if you have copy A of a book, and your bookmarks/notes are at location x, but if the book were updated, your bookmarks/notes would not match the locations. I think this problem could be overcome, though, by keeping the extra revisions of the book unlisted, and just track them for re-download, or come up with a mechanism to tell the user that their bookmarks might be out of date, or something. One of the great possible benefits of ebooks is that you should theoretically be able to dynamically update the books if there are corrections, but they don't seem to be doing this at Amazon.

09-02-2009, 03:00 AM	#3
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,599 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Both of them, now, are at 9.99 (although with different original prices)

09-02-2009, 07:24 AM	#5
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,599 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	I bet one is American and the other one English. My God, this is worse than getting bargains at a supermarket

09-02-2009, 09:27 AM	#6
gshipley Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Kindle	Things like this are very strange and I have started noticing this a lot lately. Multiple listings for the same exact book with different prices. Very confusing to the user!

09-02-2009, 12:34 PM	#7
etienne66 Groupie Posts: 185 Karma: 9832 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas, US Device: Kindle 2, PRS-600 Black, PRS-650 Red, Adam w/ Pixel Qi(pre-ordered)	Now the first one is available and the second one isn't. I also noticed that it is 2 different publishers. The first is available from the Penguin Group for $9.99 and the other is from Putnam Adult with no price listed and not available. Etienne66

09-02-2009, 05:00 PM	#11
Leep Guru Posts: 739 Karma: 1018859 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Near Seattle Device: kindle1, K3, K3G (thanks MR), iTouch, Kindle Touch	I'm getting a headache!! cheers

09-08-2009, 05:04 PM	#12
bxrLvr Connoisseur Posts: 63 Karma: 102 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: California Device: Kindle 3, iPad	having the same issues between these two: http://www.amazon.com/The-Androids-D...BO/ref=ed_oe_k http://www.amazon.com/The-Androids-D...74/ref=ed_oe_k the first is 2 bucks cheaper, shows the same page #'s, but no size.. does that mean its in tpz format?

09-08-2009, 07:32 PM	#13
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	Usually means Topaz. Get the sample and check, if you have Whispernet.

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