Disposable e-paper

CTH · 08-20-2009, 11:26 AM

I dont think that this technology has been up on mobile read before

it is a swedish company that has developed a printeble paper display that should be very cheap to produce. I dont know how far they are but I guess they are targeting the newspaper industry. I think that they are using real paper as one of the materials.

they boast with
Disposable!
0.005 €/cm2!
Low voltage!
Low power!
Sun light readable!
High viewing angle!

In other words e-paper that is dirt cheap to produce (6 inch screen would be less than 1 euro) and disposable (I am pretty sure that you could dispose of a Kindle also if you want...)

They dont mention on their frontpage that it has "Switch time, ts < 10 sec" or
400 switches or 12 months before it breaks. So NO, it wont really work as a ebook reader, unless they make like a real book out of these pages and then you update the whole book at once and read it without switching page more than once. (the paper looks like it can bend very well), then you would only need to buy a new e-readerbook for every 200th book or so. But it would be as thick as a normal book....

I am a bit sceptical, but hey it might be great

http://www.paperdisplay.se/tabid/2197/Default.aspx

DaleDe · 08-20-2009, 11:57 AM

Thanks, it look perfect for magazines. I am sure the life will improve. I built a wiki article to capture this for the future.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 08-20-2009, 12:04 PM

Anything that's considered to be "disposable" isn't that great. The last thing our ecosystem needs is more disposable products.

Hellmark · 08-20-2009, 12:18 PM

How low is low voltage and low power? How thick is it? Flexible? Is it along the lines of the Esquire cover, where the text is preset, or can it includes pixels?

Your book idea would be neat. Still wouldn't be cheap. Most books are 9"x6" (octavo) format, and if you figure 300 pages, that would work out to be 3,240,000 square inches for 81 euros ($115 USD). That is just for the display, and it would be a nightmare to control all that.

slayda · 08-20-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Anything that's considered to be "disposable" isn't that great. The last thing our ecosystem needs is more disposable products.

Disposable may mostly refer to cost not durability. We already have many items that become obsolete in a year or two, making them essentially disposable even though they are higher priced items. Our computers become obsolete (i.e. disposable) in 3 - 5 years. So if there were a reader with a user replacable (disposable) screen that would cost only a few dollars and last even 6 months, that would (IMO) be great.

Just look at the several broken (i.e. disposed) screens we've heard about here that cost roughly $90 to replace. How many of them would have welcomed a $2, user replacable screen that would average lasting 6 - 12 months?

CTH · 08-20-2009, 12:43 PM

yeah the book idea is perhaps a little bit to expensive but perhaps the same thing with a newspaper, so you have your NY times that has the same format and around the same number of pages every day, you buy a year subscribtion on it and you get a paperdisplay-newspaper that will be updated every morning with new information. That would be pretty cool.

and here is the link for the specs
http://www.paperdisplay.se/Specifica...S/Default.aspx

3V, 140µA for switching and 10µA for keeping the image. It looks very flexible and very thin.

Who are you? · 08-20-2009, 06:05 PM

The samples show whole blocks of this material connected to just one set of wires, it doesn't state whether you can make small pixels of this, and if so what the cost would be. Seems more appropriate for large outdoor advertisements than magazine ads or books.

fugazied · 08-20-2009, 07:13 PM

I'm very skeptical... they are 'disposable' like any other plastic trash that will sit on the planet for 20'000 years until it finally degrades (in the meantime choking 100 dolphins). We don't need disposable crap we need things that last longer than 4-5 years and can be recycled.

carlobee · 08-20-2009, 08:30 PM

this is great. low cost but yes, since it is disposable .. it is not really that good for the environment.

CleverClothe · 08-20-2009, 10:03 PM

So it is too expensive and material hungry to be used like paper. But it doesn't last long enough to use like other epaper displays.

It is the worst of both worlds!

It doesn't even last as long as paper.

08-20-2009, 11:26 AM	#1
CTH Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 1000153 Join Date: Jan 2007	Disposable e-paper I dont think that this technology has been up on mobile read before it is a swedish company that has developed a printeble paper display that should be very cheap to produce. I dont know how far they are but I guess they are targeting the newspaper industry. I think that they are using real paper as one of the materials. they boast with Disposable! 0.005 €/cm2! Low voltage! Low power! Sun light readable! High viewing angle! In other words e-paper that is dirt cheap to produce (6 inch screen would be less than 1 euro) and disposable (I am pretty sure that you could dispose of a Kindle also if you want...) They dont mention on their frontpage that it has "Switch time, ts < 10 sec" or 400 switches or 12 months before it breaks. So NO, it wont really work as a ebook reader, unless they make like a real book out of these pages and then you update the whole book at once and read it without switching page more than once. (the paper looks like it can bend very well), then you would only need to buy a new e-readerbook for every 200th book or so. But it would be as thick as a normal book.... I am a bit sceptical, but hey it might be great http://www.paperdisplay.se/tabid/2197/Default.aspx

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08-20-2009, 11:57 AM	#2
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	Thanks, it look perfect for magazines. I am sure the life will improve. I built a wiki article to capture this for the future.

08-20-2009, 12:04 PM	#3
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	Anything that's considered to be "disposable" isn't that great. The last thing our ecosystem needs is more disposable products.

08-20-2009, 12:18 PM	#4
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,586 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2	How low is low voltage and low power? How thick is it? Flexible? Is it along the lines of the Esquire cover, where the text is preset, or can it includes pixels? Your book idea would be neat. Still wouldn't be cheap. Most books are 9"x6" (octavo) format, and if you figure 300 pages, that would work out to be 3,240,000 square inches for 81 euros ($115 USD). That is just for the display, and it would be a nightmare to control all that.

08-20-2009, 12:43 PM	#6
CTH Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 1000153 Join Date: Jan 2007	yeah the book idea is perhaps a little bit to expensive but perhaps the same thing with a newspaper, so you have your NY times that has the same format and around the same number of pages every day, you buy a year subscribtion on it and you get a paperdisplay-newspaper that will be updated every morning with new information. That would be pretty cool. and here is the link for the specs http://www.paperdisplay.se/Specifica...S/Default.aspx 3V, 140µA for switching and 10µA for keeping the image. It looks very flexible and very thin.

08-20-2009, 06:05 PM	#7
Who are you? Groupie Posts: 184 Karma: 300001 Join Date: May 2009 Device: 505	The samples show whole blocks of this material connected to just one set of wires, it doesn't state whether you can make small pixels of this, and if so what the cost would be. Seems more appropriate for large outdoor advertisements than magazine ads or books.

08-20-2009, 07:13 PM	#8
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	I'm very skeptical... they are 'disposable' like any other plastic trash that will sit on the planet for 20'000 years until it finally degrades (in the meantime choking 100 dolphins). We don't need disposable crap we need things that last longer than 4-5 years and can be recycled.

08-20-2009, 08:30 PM	#9
carlobee Fanatic Posts: 535 Karma: 972 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: The new iPad	this is great. low cost but yes, since it is disposable .. it is not really that good for the environment.

08-20-2009, 10:03 PM	#10
CleverClothe Guru Posts: 618 Karma: 493394 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iRex iLiad, Onyx Boox 60	So it is too expensive and material hungry to be used like paper. But it doesn't last long enough to use like other epaper displays. It is the worst of both worlds! It doesn't even last as long as paper.

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