PDF & TOC on Calibre

thibaulthalpern · 04-18-2009, 05:21 AM

Does Calibre set any data on the PRS-700 so that it knows a PDF has a table of contents?

I've created some bookmarks on some PDF files using Acrobat Professional. These bookmarks are not showing up as Table of Contents in the PRS-700. I don't know if this is an issue with the Sony, the way I created bookmarks on PDFs, or Calibre.

I have another Adobe DRM document where the table of contents do show up on the Sony. On the other hand, I cannot open the file on Acrobat professional to see how they created their bookmarks since the file is DRM protected.

kovidgoyal · 04-18-2009, 12:36 PM

table of contents in a PDF are read by the reader, calibre has nothing to do with it.

thibaulthalpern · 04-18-2009, 12:39 PM

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I can't figure out why the PDF bookmarks (these are bookmarks made in the PDF, not by the Sony) are not showing up on the Sony Reader as Table of Contents. They're not showing up at all.

For some PDF docs the TOC are showing in the Sony and for others they are not. What do I need to do to these PDF files to make the bookmarks show up as TOC in the Sony?

thibaulthalpern · 04-18-2009, 03:45 PM

Okay, so I solved my own problem 12 hours after I realised this was a problem. *GASP* *SIGH*. This is what I get for being obsessive. I was unwilling to let go of the problem (thus sacrificing time I had allotted to grade student papers etc.).

I. The Issue

I had created PDF bookmarks to serve as Table of Contents. These bookmarks were not showing up on the Sony as the Table of Contents. In fact, they were nowhere to be found. Usually, if there is a Table of Contents, I can press the "Option" key and a "Table of Contents" link will come up in the subsequent box.

II. The Problem & Solution

Sony PRS-700 only read PDF bookmarks of a certain kind. Under Acrobat Professional 9 (and previous versions) you can create at least two type of bookmarks.

a. First type bookmark (Type A) whose action is "Go to a page in this document" and then you type in the page number you want the link to go to. Sony does not recognise this type of bookmark.

b. Second type of bookmark (Type B) whose action is "Go to a page number in this document" and then you indicate it by linking it to a pre-existing "Named Destination".

This means that prior to creating the bookmarks, you need to mark the destinations and name them. These will appear as "Destinations" under the Navigation Panel in the View menu. Sony does recognise this type of bookmark as "Table of Contents". If you want to know how to create these "Destinations" refer to the help system that is part of Acrobat Professional. It's too long for me to explain although it's not complicated at all.

In terms of what the end-user sees, bookmark "Type A" and bookmark "Type B" produce exactly the same results. But, again, Sony PRS-700 only recognise "Type B" as "Table of Contents".

"Type A" bookmark is simpler and faster to create. The PRS-700 is a bit inane in this regards but at least now I can continue editing my PDF books and have the Table of Contents show up.

But first...to grade student papers and do some paper book reading.

04-18-2009, 05:21 AM	#1
thibaulthalpern Evangelist Posts: 478 Karma: 451808 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California, USA Device: my two eyes, KLiiK, Sony PRS-700	PDF & TOC on Calibre Does Calibre set any data on the PRS-700 so that it knows a PDF has a table of contents? I've created some bookmarks on some PDF files using Acrobat Professional. These bookmarks are not showing up as Table of Contents in the PRS-700. I don't know if this is an issue with the Sony, the way I created bookmarks on PDFs, or Calibre. I have another Adobe DRM document where the table of contents do show up on the Sony. On the other hand, I cannot open the file on Acrobat professional to see how they created their bookmarks since the file is DRM protected.

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04-18-2009, 12:36 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,188 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	table of contents in a PDF are read by the reader, calibre has nothing to do with it.

04-18-2009, 12:39 PM	#3
thibaulthalpern Evangelist Posts: 478 Karma: 451808 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California, USA Device: my two eyes, KLiiK, Sony PRS-700	Yeah, that's what I thought. I can't figure out why the PDF bookmarks (these are bookmarks made in the PDF, not by the Sony) are not showing up on the Sony Reader as Table of Contents. They're not showing up at all. For some PDF docs the TOC are showing in the Sony and for others they are not. What do I need to do to these PDF files to make the bookmarks show up as TOC in the Sony?

04-18-2009, 03:45 PM	#4
thibaulthalpern Evangelist Posts: 478 Karma: 451808 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California, USA Device: my two eyes, KLiiK, Sony PRS-700	Okay, so I solved my own problem 12 hours after I realised this was a problem. GASP SIGH. This is what I get for being obsessive. I was unwilling to let go of the problem (thus sacrificing time I had allotted to grade student papers etc.). I. The Issue I had created PDF bookmarks to serve as Table of Contents. These bookmarks were not showing up on the Sony as the Table of Contents. In fact, they were nowhere to be found. Usually, if there is a Table of Contents, I can press the "Option" key and a "Table of Contents" link will come up in the subsequent box. II. The Problem & Solution Sony PRS-700 only read PDF bookmarks of a certain kind. Under Acrobat Professional 9 (and previous versions) you can create at least two type of bookmarks. a. First type bookmark (Type A) whose action is "Go to a page in this document" and then you type in the page number you want the link to go to. Sony *does not* recognise this type of bookmark. b. Second type of bookmark (Type B) whose action is "Go to a page number in this document" and then you indicate it by linking it to a pre-existing "Named Destination". This means that prior to creating the bookmarks, you need to mark the destinations and name them. These will appear as "Destinations" under the Navigation Panel in the View menu. Sony *does* recognise this type of bookmark as "Table of Contents". If you want to know how to create these "Destinations" refer to the help system that is part of Acrobat Professional. It's too long for me to explain although it's not complicated at all. In terms of what the end-user sees, bookmark "Type A" and bookmark "Type B" produce exactly the same results. But, again, Sony PRS-700 only recognise "Type B" as "Table of Contents". "Type A" bookmark is simpler and faster to create. The PRS-700 is a bit inane in this regards but at least now I can continue editing my PDF books and have the Table of Contents show up. But first...to grade student papers and do some paper book reading.

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