Does a Kobo update remove plugins, like nightmode?

marp68 · 03-20-2025, 11:24 AM

When connecting my Kobo to Calibre I get the message that there is a new update for the reader. Would installing the update remove my installed plugins, such as nightmode? I have also created genre categories for myshelves that is used in the reader. Will they still work? And what about the books already transferred to the reader, will they still be there or would I have to transfer them again?

I did install an update long time ago, but don't remember what happened.

DNSB · 03-20-2025, 01:49 PM

Which firmware revision is your Clara HD running? What version of calibre? Nightmode is an older add-on and not really needed with newer firmware. Your collections will not be affected nor will the books transferred to the reader unless you are updating from an antique firmware revision.

Newer Kobo firmware supports Dark Mode though your Clara HD will need to use NickelMenu to enable/disable it, The same for Inverted mode. Dark mode is strictly for reading and does not invert images but does require a reboot. Invert is like night mode and inverts everything though it does take a reboot to enable/disable (the NickelMenu entry does this automatically).

JSWolf · 03-20-2025, 02:12 PM

A firmware update will not remove NickelMenu.

DNSB · 03-20-2025, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

A firmware update will not remove NickelMenu.

Please try to remain relevant to the topic of the thread until at least 2 pages in.

PeterT · 03-20-2025, 04:18 PM

If by "installed plugins" you're referring to patches, then YES an upgrade of the f/w will remove all of them.

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Quoth · 03-20-2025, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterT

If by "installed plugins" you're referring to patches, then YES an upgrade of the f/w will remove all of them.

Yes.

Though things added to the config file are mostly OK, like SideloadedMode=true

PeterT · 03-20-2025, 07:34 PM

Quoth; changes to config files are NOT patches.

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Quoth · 03-21-2025, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterT

Quoth; changes to config files are NOT patches.

You and I know that. But some people don't realise that.

marp68 · 03-21-2025, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

Which firmware revision is your Clara HD running? What version of calibre? Nightmode is an older add-on and not really needed with newer firmware. Your collections will not be affected nor will the books transferred to the reader unless you are updating from an antique firmware revision.

Newer Kobo firmware supports Dark Mode though your Clara HD will need to use NickelMenu to enable/disable it, The same for Inverted mode. Dark mode is strictly for reading and does not invert images but does require a reboot. Invert is like night mode and inverts everything though it does take a reboot to enable/disable (the NickelMenu entry does this automatically).

The Kobo version is 4.38.21908, 20230822.

I have NickelMenu installed, but it doesn't seem to work. I can see the menu icon at the botton beside Home, My books, Discover and More. When pressing it a square with NickelMenu inside shows up, and pressing this another bigger square shows up and then dissapear. Inside it says something like See KOBOeReader/.addons/nm/doc... Then I can't read more of the text.

I am using Calibre 6.29
I also get the suggestion to update Calibre to 8.01

Is it safe to just update Calibre, or will it remove plugins, settings, for example, my shelves, sortings, and other things I might not even remember now. I have also installed DeDRM removal, KoboUtilties. Is Quality Check a paert of Calibre standard or a installed plugin?

marp68 · 03-21-2025, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

If by "installed plugins" you're referring to patches, then YES an upgrade of the f/w will remove all of them.

Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk

I have installed Nightmode and NickelMode. I remember having to make changes in the nightmode file. NickelMode doesn't work now, probably after the last update. I use myshelves in Calibre for genre category which is then reflected in the reader, so I can seacrh for books according to genre.

bluepeter · 03-21-2025, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by marp68

I have NickelMenu installed, but it doesn't seem to work. I can see the menu icon at the botton beside Home, My books, Discover and More. When pressing it a square with NickelMenu inside shows up, and pressing this another bigger square shows up and then dissapear. Inside it says something like See KOBOeReader/.addons/nm/doc... Then I can't read more of the text.

It sounds as if you've not completed the installation. You need to configure the menu - see https://pgaskin.net/NickelMenu/ :
Connect you Kobo eReader to your computer again and create a new file (of any type) named KOBOeReader/.adds/nm/config, and follow the instructions in KOBOeReader/.adds/nm/doc to configure NickelMenu.

marp68 · 03-21-2025, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluepeter

It sounds as if you've not completed the installation. You need to configure the menu - see https://pgaskin.net/NickelMenu/ :
Connect you Kobo eReader to your computer again and create a new file (of any type) named KOBOeReader/.adds/nm/config, and follow the instructions in KOBOeReader/.adds/nm/doc to configure NickelMenu.

Okay thanks. Should I fix this before or after updating the reader with the new update?

bluepeter · 03-21-2025, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by marp68

Okay thanks. Should I fix this before or after updating the reader with the new update?

If memory serves, NickelMenu is supposed to persist through firmware updates. However, my inclination would be to play safe and do the firmware update first.

marp68 · 03-21-2025, 03:50 PM

Can anyone tell me what happens when updating Calibre with the update?

I am using Calibre 6.29
I get the suggestion to update Calibre to 8.01

Is it safe to just update Calibre, or will it remove plugins, settings, for example, my shelves, sortings, and other things I might not even remember now. I have also installed DeDRM removal, KoboUtilties. Is Quality Check a paert of Calibre standard or a installed plugin?

Do I need the update?

DNSB · 03-21-2025, 03:56 PM

You should update calibre. Plugins and settings will survive the update.

I've also attached a sample NickelMenu config file. Just copy it into .adds/nm and you should see some menu items when you tap the NickelMenu icon.

03-20-2025, 11:24 AM	#1
marp68 Addict Posts: 283 Karma: 132294 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Sweden Device: Kobo Clara HD	Does a Kobo update remove plugins, like nightmode? When connecting my Kobo to Calibre I get the message that there is a new update for the reader. Would installing the update remove my installed plugins, such as nightmode? I have also created genre categories for myshelves that is used in the reader. Will they still work? And what about the books already transferred to the reader, will they still be there or would I have to transfer them again? I did install an update long time ago, but don't remember what happened.

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DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 44,355 Karma: 165628573 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Which firmware revision is your Clara HD running? What version of calibre? Nightmode is an older add-on and not really needed with newer firmware. Your collections will not be affected nor will the books transferred to the reader unless you are updating from an antique firmware revision. Newer Kobo firmware supports Dark Mode though your Clara HD will need to use NickelMenu to enable/disable it, The same for Inverted mode. Dark mode is strictly for reading and does not invert images but does require a reboot. Invert is like night mode and inverts everything though it does take a reboot to enable/disable (the NickelMenu entry does this automatically).

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,883 Karma: 143095300 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	A firmware update will not remove NickelMenu.

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PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,253 Karma: 78869092 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	If by "installed plugins" you're referring to patches, then YES an upgrade of the f/w will remove all of them. Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk

03-20-2025, 07:34 PM	#7
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,253 Karma: 78869092 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	Quoth; changes to config files are NOT patches. Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk

03-21-2025, 03:50 PM	#14
marp68 Addict Posts: 283 Karma: 132294 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Sweden Device: Kobo Clara HD	Can anyone tell me what happens when updating Calibre with the update? I am using Calibre 6.29 I get the suggestion to update Calibre to 8.01 Is it safe to just update Calibre, or will it remove plugins, settings, for example, my shelves, sortings, and other things I might not even remember now. I have also installed DeDRM removal, KoboUtilties. Is Quality Check a paert of Calibre standard or a installed plugin? Do I need the update?

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