Kindle Paperwhite 2024 compatibility

Waylander · 10-19-2024, 11:01 AM

Amazon has launched a raft of new devices, with a 7-inch Paperwhite, a new 6-inch Basic, the incoming Colorsoft and a (supposedly) upgraded Scribe. I'm thinking of getting the new Paperwhite, but don't know if it's compatible with Calibre. Apparently the file explorer on Macs doesn't work with the new PW, which leaves me concerned about Calibre as well.

Stuart · 10-19-2024, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waylander

Amazon has launched a raft of new devices, with a 7-inch Paperwhite, a new 6-inch Basic, the incoming Colorsoft and a (supposedly) upgraded Scribe. I'm thinking of getting the new Paperwhite, but don't know if it's compatible with Calibre. Apparently the file explorer on Macs doesn't work with the new PW, which leaves me concerned about Calibre as well.

I got the new Paperwhite Signature Edition yesterday, and the newest version of Calibre on a MacBook Air does recognize the device. I haven’t had much time to play with it yet, but I transferred a couple of e-books to the Paperwhite. The only issue I’ve noticed so far is the e-books aren’t showing page numbers as they do when I transfer them to my other Kindles. I’m only getting the option for locations.

I also had a problem at first with covers displaying in the library on the new Paperwhite, but I was running an older version of Calibre. Updating to 7.20 fixed that.

DNSB · 10-19-2024, 02:48 PM

Since the new Paperwhite models have an MTP connection similar to the one that the Scribe was given in a firmware update, calibre should be able to connect to it using OpenMTP (just remember unlike an USB connected Kindle ereader, a MTP connected Kindle ereader on MacOS and Linux only allows one connection).

JSWolf · 10-19-2024, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waylander

Amazon has launched a raft of new devices, with a 7-inch Paperwhite, a new 6-inch Basic, the incoming Colorsoft and a (supposedly) upgraded Scribe. I'm thinking of getting the new Paperwhite, but don't know if it's compatible with Calibre. Apparently the file explorer on Macs doesn't work with the new PW, which leaves me concerned about Calibre as well.

Some are saying with the new PW6 that you cannot use Download & Transfer via USB, So keep your PW5 or you could lose that

Waylander · 10-25-2024, 10:36 AM

My new PW Gen 12 arrived today, but I can't get it to show up in Calibre. I have OpenMTP and that's all working absolutely fine, with no other MTP devices plugged in. Do I need to have MTP open for Calibre to recognise the device, or not? Does Calibre need to be open before I plug in the device with MTP, or not? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Update: I clicked the refresh icon on OpenMTP, un-plugged and re-plugged the Kindle, and closed and re-opened Calibre, and whatever bit of that worked seems to have done the trick.

Avwriter · 10-25-2024, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Waylander

My new PW Gen 12 arrived today, but I can't get it to show up in Calibre. I have OpenMTP and that's all working absolutely fine, with no other MTP devices plugged in. Do I need to have MTP open for Calibre to recognise the device, or not? Does Calibre need to be open before I plug in the device with MTP, or not? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Update: I clicked the refresh icon on OpenMTP, un-plugged and re-plugged the Kindle, and closed and re-opened Calibre, and whatever bit of that worked seems to have done the trick.

So can you confirm that you are able to use Calibre to side-load books to the new Kindle?

kovidgoyal · 10-25-2024, 11:20 PM

Do not use openmtp and calibre at the same time. On linux/macos only ONE program can access a MTP device at a time.

DNSB · 10-25-2024, 11:23 PM

Thanks for the correction. I was under the impression from a previous thread about connecting a Scribe using MTP to a Mac, that you needed to use OpenMTP.

kovidgoyal · 10-25-2024, 11:30 PM

No both openmtp and calibre use libmtp to access mtp devices. On Windows, the OS manages mtp devices and multiplexes them for client software. On non-windows OSes libmtp speaks the mtp protocol directly over the usb port and so only a aingle program can so so at a time.

Waylander · 10-26-2024, 12:02 PM

For some reason when I connect my PW6 it now isn't showing up in Calibre, even though OpenMTP isn't running. When I press the "disconnect" icon on the device's screen, Calibre gives this error message:

calibre, version 7.20.0
ERROR: Error: Error communicating with device

Failed to get storage info for device.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "calibre/gui2/device.py", line 112, in run
File "calibre/gui2/device.py", line 532, in _get_device_information
File "calibre/devices/mtp/base.py", line 24, in synchronizer
File "calibre/devices/mtp/unix/driver.py", line 358, in free_space
libmtp.MTPError: Failed to get storage info for device.

I'm confused as to why Calibre recognised the device yesterday but isn't detecting it today.

Update: it seems that it takes some time for the PW6 to be recognised by Calibre. I opened Calibre, plugged in the Kindle, without OpenMTP open as per instructions, waited a bit and it showed up.

rantanplan · 10-26-2024, 01:13 PM

It's important to start Calibre first and then connect the device, not the other way around.

Waylander · 10-26-2024, 02:21 PM

That seems to be where I was going wrong, for which apologies; A kindle using MTP is not something I'm used to.

Waylander · 11-06-2024, 07:14 AM

For some reason my PW6 is refusing to show up in Calibre. I make sure that Calibre is open before I plug the PW6 in, and OpenMTP is not open. Yet the device is not showing up on Calibre. I'm not sure why this isn't working.

tomsem · 11-08-2024, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rantanplan

It's important to start Calibre first and then connect the device, not the other way around.

It's not important. Calibre should detect the device if it is connected and not already claimed by another MTP client. I just confirmed this.

tomsem · 11-08-2024, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waylander

For some reason my PW6 is refusing to show up in Calibre. I make sure that Calibre is open before I plug the PW6 in, and OpenMTP is not open. Yet the device is not showing up on Calibre. I'm not sure why this isn't working.

How long are you waiting? It can take awhile for calibre to retrieve contents (30-40 seconds).

Also make sure to Quit OpenMTP (command+Q or the menu) and not just close the app window, which leaves it running.

10-19-2024, 11:01 AM	#1
Waylander Guru Posts: 661 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara,	Kindle Paperwhite 2024 compatibility Amazon has launched a raft of new devices, with a 7-inch Paperwhite, a new 6-inch Basic, the incoming Colorsoft and a (supposedly) upgraded Scribe. I'm thinking of getting the new Paperwhite, but don't know if it's compatible with Calibre. Apparently the file explorer on Macs doesn't work with the new PW, which leaves me concerned about Calibre as well.

10-25-2024, 10:36 AM	#5
Waylander Guru Posts: 661 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara,	My new PW Gen 12 arrived today, but I can't get it to show up in Calibre. I have OpenMTP and that's all working absolutely fine, with no other MTP devices plugged in. Do I need to have MTP open for Calibre to recognise the device, or not? Does Calibre need to be open before I plug in the device with MTP, or not? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Update: I clicked the refresh icon on OpenMTP, un-plugged and re-plugged the Kindle, and closed and re-opened Calibre, and whatever bit of that worked seems to have done the trick. Last edited by Waylander; 10-25-2024 at 12:09 PM.

10-26-2024, 12:02 PM	#10
Waylander Guru Posts: 661 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara,	For some reason when I connect my PW6 it now isn't showing up in Calibre, even though OpenMTP isn't running. When I press the "disconnect" icon on the device's screen, Calibre gives this error message: calibre, version 7.20.0 ERROR: Error: Error communicating with device Failed to get storage info for device. Traceback (most recent call last): File "calibre/gui2/device.py", line 112, in run File "calibre/gui2/device.py", line 532, in _get_device_information File "calibre/devices/mtp/base.py", line 24, in synchronizer File "calibre/devices/mtp/unix/driver.py", line 358, in free_space libmtp.MTPError: Failed to get storage info for device. I'm confused as to why Calibre recognised the device yesterday but isn't detecting it today. Update: it seems that it takes some time for the PW6 to be recognised by Calibre. I opened Calibre, plugged in the Kindle, without OpenMTP open as per instructions, waited a bit and it showed up. Last edited by Waylander; 10-26-2024 at 12:23 PM.

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10-19-2024, 02:48 PM	#3
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 44,451 Karma: 167726581 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Since the new Paperwhite models have an MTP connection similar to the one that the Scribe was given in a firmware update, calibre should be able to connect to it using OpenMTP (just remember unlike an USB connected Kindle ereader, a MTP connected Kindle ereader on MacOS and Linux only allows one connection).

10-25-2024, 11:20 PM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,144 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Do not use openmtp and calibre at the same time. On linux/macos only ONE program can access a MTP device at a time.

10-25-2024, 11:23 PM	#8
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 44,451 Karma: 167726581 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Thanks for the correction. I was under the impression from a previous thread about connecting a Scribe using MTP to a Mac, that you needed to use OpenMTP.

10-25-2024, 11:30 PM	#9
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,144 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	No both openmtp and calibre use libmtp to access mtp devices. On Windows, the OS manages mtp devices and multiplexes them for client software. On non-windows OSes libmtp speaks the mtp protocol directly over the usb port and so only a aingle program can so so at a time.

10-26-2024, 01:13 PM	#11
rantanplan Weirdo Posts: 811 Karma: 11003000 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Wuppertal, Germany Device: Tolino Shine Color, Tolino Vision 6, Kobo Clara 2E, Boox Note Air 2+	It's important to start Calibre first and then connect the device, not the other way around.

10-26-2024, 02:21 PM	#12
Waylander Guru Posts: 661 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara,	That seems to be where I was going wrong, for which apologies; A kindle using MTP is not something I'm used to.

11-06-2024, 07:14 AM	#13
Waylander Guru Posts: 661 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara,	For some reason my PW6 is refusing to show up in Calibre. I make sure that Calibre is open before I plug the PW6 in, and OpenMTP is not open. Yet the device is not showing up on Calibre. I'm not sure why this isn't working.

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