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Old 07-18-2021, 05:16 AM   #1
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are deDRM ebooks identifiable ?

Hello,

Let's say a friend of mine ( ) buys books on Amazon. He removes DRM so he can lend it to all his friends. But one of those friends could accidentally let one or several borrowed ebooks go on internet.

Is there any possibility and/or danger for my friend that the deDRM'ed books are identified ( we can find who initially bought it ) and my friend would get troubles ?

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Old 07-18-2021, 05:19 AM   #2
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Old 07-18-2021, 05:26 AM   #3
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Forbidden question ? Can you answer before my post is deleted ?
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Old 07-18-2021, 05:28 AM   #4
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Old 07-18-2021, 05:30 AM   #5
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No to what ? identifiable ? Forbidden question ? can answer?

Plz, don't answer anymore it's ok
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Old 07-18-2021, 05:31 AM   #6
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Okay. I won't.
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Old 07-18-2021, 06:18 AM   #7
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Yes, there is a watermark in the Kindle eBooks even after the DRM has been removed. So if you do put them on the net, they can be traced back to whoever purchased it.

So given that you don't trust your friends enough to not release these eBooks onto the net, don't give them a copy. You could get in pretty big trouble.
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Yes, there is a watermark in the Kindle eBooks even after the DRM has been removed. So if you do put them on the net, they can be traced back to whoever purchased it.

So given that you don't trust your friends enough to not release these eBooks onto the net, don't give them a copy. You could get in pretty big trouble.
Thank you JSWolf ! Your answer is helpful. Completely different from the precedent enigmatic useless ones.
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Old 07-18-2021, 08:07 AM   #9
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The answer from JSWolf does not apply only to Kindle books sold with DRM. Many books are sold DRM-free and those also contain a watermark.

I support social measures like watermarks to discourage piracy so I decline to provide assistance with their removal.
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Old 07-18-2021, 08:38 AM   #10
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I guess you live in a nice country then. Lucky you !
Here our politicians show us the way of scheming. And when they do very bad things, they escape justice thanks to some strings well pulled.
So compare to all of that, year after year, sharing some books raise no more guilt.
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So compare to all of that, year after year, sharing some books raise no more guilt.
Sharing books between friends and family is fine with me and unlikely to get you into any trouble. Even Amazon supports some limited ways of doing that without breaking DRM.

Wholesale piracy harms authors and is a different issue in my opinion.
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Old 07-18-2021, 12:37 PM   #12
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I steal book but my politicians do worse things, so it's ok I'm a thief? Ok then
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Old 07-18-2021, 12:53 PM   #13
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I've removed DRM on Kindle books just to be able to read what I've bought legitimately on different devices, correct scan errors and control my own library. There really doesn't have to be a personal distribution network involved and I personally wouldn't trust one.

It's interesting that Google Books began with the values you've expressed (books should be free, if I read you correctly) as its principle. That didn't last, however.

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Old 07-18-2021, 02:09 PM   #14
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I steal book but my politicians do worse things, so it's ok I'm a thief? Ok then
So you do same ? good We are legion on internet
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Sharing books between friends and family is fine with me and unlikely to get you into any trouble. Even Amazon supports some limited ways of doing that without breaking DRM.

Wholesale piracy harms authors and is a different issue in my opinion.
Their publishers hurt them a lot more in my opinion. That's why some would like to go with auto-publish. Same with singers.

Thank you anyway.
And thank you to someone who gave me the way to remove the watermark in pm.
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