Epub footnotes not showing as popups

nixsee · 10-03-2020, 08:14 PM

I'm sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but I can't find it.

I have an epub that when I click the in-line footnote link, it brings me to the end-of-chapter footnotes rather than show a popup. Is there a setting I need to change, or a way to convert this file?

DNSB · 10-03-2020, 08:21 PM

Try searching on Google for "popup footnotes site:mobileread.com" for an introduction to the seemingly endless series of threads on that topic.

Have fun....

And to assuage my curiousity, may I ask why you posted that query in the library management forum?

nixsee · 10-03-2020, 09:02 PM

Thanks for the quick response.

I had already searched plenty, and my continued searches have not been helpful either. I've tried the formatting in this link, which Kovid himself had shared in one post, to no avail. I've tried converting the epub to an epub v3, and no luck either.

I posted in library management because I saw that it says "All about viewing, adding, and exporting books". I now see there is a Viewer specific forum that this should have gone in. I can recreate this there, unless you or someone else is able to move it wherever is appropriate?

DNSB · 10-03-2020, 09:10 PM

You might also want to check the ePub forum where there has been quite a bit of discussion about footnotes and issues with them. Some of the content is even useful!

nixsee · 10-03-2020, 09:31 PM

Thanks, I've been there and can't figure it out.

Here's a copy of the book if you or others are curious/able to help.

[Attachment deleted - copyright forward in the book.]

jackie_w · 10-03-2020, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nixsee

Thanks, I've been there and can't figure it out.

Here's a copy of the book if you or others are curious/able to help. Attachment 182420

I'll take a guess and say that it may be because each link and its matching footnote are both contained in the same HTML file.

I admit I don't know the "rules" the calibre Viewer uses when deciding "to pop-up or not to pop-up".

It's probably also fair to say that just because the calibre Viewer doesn't pop-up doesn't necessarily mean they won't pop-up on an actual device using a different viewing app.

nixsee · 10-03-2020, 10:22 PM

Thanks for looking at it. That was my only thought - same file, but don't know how to check or what to do about it.

I don't use any other devices - calibre is where I do all my reading. Even if it is just a problem with calibre's rendering, its far too onerous to extract them all to a separate endnotes file, so I'm hoping that some sort of tweak within calibre would fix it.

kovidgoyal · 10-03-2020, 10:38 PM

To be robust about it, add role="doc-noteref" to the <a> tag. Then it will always popup in the calibre viewer.

nixsee · 10-03-2020, 11:01 PM

Thanks, but this still doesn't seem to work. Is the issue that the footnote is in the same file as the initial link?

It's entirely possible that I am messing something up still, but if you're able to take a quick look, I am using the 07pre2.xhtml file within the file I attached above.

kovidgoyal · 10-03-2020, 11:10 PM

Works for me after adding role.

nixsee · 10-03-2020, 11:33 PM

Nevermind, I got it. I'll figure out a global find/replace for the rest. Thanks very much!

pdurrant · 10-04-2020, 04:08 AM

A reminder to check whether books contain any copyright material before uploading them. Thanks.

10-03-2020, 08:14 PM	#1
nixsee Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 24858 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	Epub footnotes not showing as popups I'm sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but I can't find it. I have an epub that when I click the in-line footnote link, it brings me to the end-of-chapter footnotes rather than show a popup. Is there a setting I need to change, or a way to convert this file?

10-03-2020, 08:21 PM	#2
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 46,149 Karma: 168983734 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Try searching on Google for "popup footnotes site:mobileread.com" for an introduction to the seemingly endless series of threads on that topic. Have fun.... And to assuage my curiousity, may I ask why you posted that query in the library management forum? Last edited by DNSB; 10-03-2020 at 08:25 PM. Reason: Added question about location for post, removed Google-fu running weak comment

10-03-2020, 09:31 PM	#5
nixsee Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 24858 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	Thanks, I've been there and can't figure it out. Here's a copy of the book if you or others are curious/able to help. [Attachment deleted - copyright forward in the book.] Last edited by pdurrant; 10-04-2020 at 04:07 AM.

10-03-2020, 11:10 PM	#10
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,342 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Works for me after adding role. Attached Thumbnails

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10-03-2020, 09:02 PM	#3
nixsee Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 24858 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	Thanks for the quick response. I had already searched plenty, and my continued searches have not been helpful either. I've tried the formatting in this link, which Kovid himself had shared in one post, to no avail. I've tried converting the epub to an epub v3, and no luck either. I posted in library management because I saw that it says "All about viewing, adding, and exporting books". I now see there is a Viewer specific forum that this should have gone in. I can recreate this there, unless you or someone else is able to move it wherever is appropriate?

10-03-2020, 09:10 PM	#4
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 46,149 Karma: 168983734 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	You might also want to check the ePub forum where there has been quite a bit of discussion about footnotes and issues with them. Some of the content is even useful!

10-03-2020, 10:22 PM	#7
nixsee Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 24858 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	Thanks for looking at it. That was my only thought - same file, but don't know how to check or what to do about it. I don't use any other devices - calibre is where I do all my reading. Even if it is just a problem with calibre's rendering, its far too onerous to extract them all to a separate endnotes file, so I'm hoping that some sort of tweak within calibre would fix it.

10-03-2020, 10:38 PM	#8
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,342 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	To be robust about it, add role="doc-noteref" to the <a> tag. Then it will always popup in the calibre viewer.

10-03-2020, 11:01 PM	#9
nixsee Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 24858 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	Thanks, but this still doesn't seem to work. Is the issue that the footnote is in the same file as the initial link? It's entirely possible that I am messing something up still, but if you're able to take a quick look, I am using the 07pre2.xhtml file within the file I attached above.

10-03-2020, 11:33 PM	#11
nixsee Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 24858 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	Nevermind, I got it. I'll figure out a global find/replace for the rest. Thanks very much!

10-04-2020, 04:08 AM	#12
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,935 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	A reminder to check whether books contain any copyright material before uploading them. Thanks.

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