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View Poll Results: What's your ideal form of copyright?
None. Copyright should just be abolished. 5 3.97%
Perpetual. Copyright should never expire. 0 0%
Some fixed length from first publication. 22 17.46%
Some fixed length, renewable a limited number of times. 20 15.87%
Some fixed length, renewable indefinitely. 5 3.97%
The lifetime of the author only. 21 16.67%
The lifetime of the author, plus a number of years. 28 22.22%
The lifetime of the author, plus a number of years renewable a limited number of times. 4 3.17%
The lifetime of the author, plus a number of years renewable indefinitely. 1 0.79%
Some fixed length, or the lifetime of the author, whichever is longer. 10 7.94%
Some fixed length, or the lifetime of the author plus a number of years, whichever is longer. 7 5.56%
The Blue One next to the Fish. 3 2.38%
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:15 AM   #1
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Copyright Reform Poll

Do the copyright laws need reform?

Current law is life of author+50 years or life of author+70 years.

The Berne convention (& successor conventions) require a minimum term or life of author+50 years. Changing seems practically impossible.

But let's ignore the practicalities. In your ideal world, what would we do with copyright?

If none of the options I've put in the poll come close to your choice, suggest something in the thread.

The poll results are hidden until the poll ends on the morning of the 1st of May.

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Old 04-01-2020, 04:43 AM   #2
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I'd like it to be life + 25, but I'd be happy with the Berne Convention of life +50. The increases to 75 and 95 are nothing to do with rewarding estate of author and little to do with books. It's driven by the desire to have various Corporates have control forever of the music, TV, animations and movies that they have produced.

DRM should be illegal. It doesn't stop piracy and is really designed to control the consumer.
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:47 AM   #3
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DRM should be illegal. It doesn't stop piracy and is really designed to control the consumer.
I think we'll have to leave DRM to another thread.
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:22 AM   #4
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I went lifetime of the author plus a number of years. The reason being that an author can die early and will no longer be supporting his/her family. So I do think his/her family should still get money from the books. Life+70 is stupid and brought on because Disney didn't want to lose copyright on the mouse. I'd be fine with life+50 and leave it be at that. Let the mouse be public domain.
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:29 AM   #5
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I voted life plus a number of years.
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:35 AM   #6
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Fixed length, plus limited renewal. For the vast majority of books, the original 28 year copyright is more than adequate. Few books make any money after the initial release.

I'm open to a scheme where the author has the original copyright and then can renew the copyright as long as the book remains in print. Easy enough to do with ebooks. Renewal fee being a percentage of the sales from the previous 5 years assuming that you are renewing every 5 years. Of course, I also think that no book should be eligible for copyright unless an electronic version of it, in one of a specific format, resides in the Library of Congress, with the renewal fee's being dedicated to the maintenance of said library along with a mechanism for the general public to get electronic copies of any book that is in public domain.

Not going to happen, of course.
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I've voted, but I won't give my opinion as I don't want (as poll creator) to bias anyone. I'm happy for others to chat.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:54 AM   #8
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I voted fixed length, but I think there needs to be a different standard for published vs not published works.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:57 AM   #9
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I voted fixed length, but I think there needs to be a different standard for published vs not published works.
To be able to copy something, one needs the original. If it's not published, only the author has the original.
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"The lifetime of the author, plus a number of years renewable indefinitely."

Failure to renew places the work(s) into the public domain.
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Lifetime of the Author + 25 years ONLY IF HUMAN.
Corporations a simple 70, non-renewable.

My rationale:
For Human authors, dependents (not extended to just any heirs), The creator may not have been available to the rest of the Family, or the work impacted Family life due to deadlines and other requirements (tours...).
I chose 25, because most offspring are on their own by then. Thus less impact on THEIR lives.
Dependents should get something, as they may have been a sounding board or other contributor to the creation. But not the 'Aunt Tillies'
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The lifetime of the author. Anyone can die early, not just authors. Why should their dependents get special treatment? When a street cleaner dies early, will his dependents get financial support for the next 25 or 50 years? Is the street cleaner's job less important than the author's? Do the street cleaner's dependents deserve financial support less than the author's dependents?
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Old 04-01-2020, 02:58 PM   #14
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Lifetime plus some years to allow for time to clear out any existing contracts and product that may exist. I suppose the exact number should be averaged from terms of typical single-product contracts across various media.

I think we also need to legally update / clarify what counts as "published" in the digital age, for the purposes of applying compulsory licensing rules and determining if something is a personal document / not intended for publication.
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:33 PM   #15
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We ought to find other solutions. And expecting everyone to join the gig economy isn't one.

The current system interferes with research, with preservation, and with accessibility.

Once we have other solutions, phasing it out should be possible, but until then short fixed terms may be a workable compromise. With anonymous works, collective works, authors disappearing, etc. life of the author was not, is not, and cannot be practical.
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